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Old 03-02-11 | 10:09 PM
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I went to the lbs today and bought the most expensive park chain tool there was. I ****ed up and the pin on it bent a little bit do you think they will let me return it? I have the reciept and packaging.
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Old 03-02-11 | 10:10 PM
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Buy more pins. They are replaceable.
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Old 03-02-11 | 10:16 PM
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Buy more pins. They are replaceable.
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Buy more pins (they are replaceable for this very reason) and while you are in there, ask for tips on how to not bend them.

Don't return it. You may need it later. It's nice to have a chain tool in the toolbox.
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Old 03-02-11 | 10:19 PM
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Yeah man...I've probably bent and broken more of those pins than I have hairs in my beard even when I'm being extremely careful. It happens.

However - I still prefer my little Cyclo Rivoli chain breaker over my expensive Park one.
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Old 03-02-11 | 11:31 PM
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Damn, I'll look into that Scrod and thats for the info all of you guys. I would have been pissed to return it the day after I bought it to find out they're easily replaced. Guess im going to order a butt-load of pins tonight online. Thanks!
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:15 AM
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I like this kind of chain breaker the most.

Which makes me wonder. Carleton, do track riders break their chain when they switch the ratio AT the velodrome? Do you have a stash of chains in various lengths for different events?
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:17 AM
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I like this kind of chain breaker the most.
Deal extreme?
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:20 AM
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It's from...*cough*MEC*cough*.

Surprisingly cheap and it works like a charm.
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:32 AM
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It's from...*cough*MEC*cough*.

Surprisingly cheap and it works like a charm.
Funny, I bought one from deal extreme that looked exactly like it but with less nice finish.... got around to using it for the first time last month setting up my 727 and it didn't stand a chance against the KMC mushroomed pin chain... the prongs on the main body that hold the chain in place bent on the first try and the pin budged barely any... my park tool one ended up making easy work of it with barely any effort from me, plus no hex wrench digging into my hands.
I assume I got a knockoff of what you're talking about as I believe it must perform well enough for you to post it up here.
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:36 AM
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Old 03-03-11 | 12:39 AM
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Funny, I bought one from deal extreme that looked exactly like it but with less nice finish.... got around to using it for the first time last month setting up my 727 and it didn't stand a chance against the KMC mushroomed pin chain... the prongs on the main body that hold the chain in place bent on the first try and the pin budged barely any... my park tool one ended up making easy work of it with barely any effort from me, plus no hex wrench digging into my hands.
I assume I got a knockoff of what you're talking about as I believe it must perform well enough for you to post it up here.
I think the one I have is knock off of a Pedro one that I used to have.



It was small and I lost it somewhere.

I like it better than the Park type with the handle, I feel like I get more leverage with a hex key.
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Old 03-03-11 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrelli

I like this kind of chain breaker the most.

Which makes me wonder. Carleton, do track riders break their chain when they switch the ratio AT the velodrome? Do you have a stash of chains in various lengths for different events?
That's the benefit of having long track ends (dropouts). If they are long enough you can use a long chain for every gear combination. But, sometimes there might be a weird combination that doesn't work. For me it was 45/13 (small ring plus small cog) which put the wheel off of the dropouts. So, I had to have a short chain which was 1 link shorter. I used two chains (Izumi Eco) that had normal quick master links. Using a chain with a screw pin (Izumi Super Toughness) took too long.

That's why some bikes like the Planet X or LOOK 496 have really long dropouts.


With dropouts that long, you'd never have to switch chains.
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Old 03-03-11 | 02:28 AM
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Ah, I see. I forgot chain tension is not that big of a deal on the track.

That LOOK is so hawt...the rear triangle is separated?
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Ah, I see. I forgot chain tension is not that big of a deal on the track.

That LOOK is so hawt...the rear triangle is separated?
I'm confused.

Chain tension is important.
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Old 03-03-11 | 03:26 AM
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...Think it was a question of rear wheel placement.
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