Should I fix this?
#1
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Should I fix this?
I just bought this oldie but goodie Miyata for $60 and was planning on fixing or SS'ing it, but now I have an opportunity to buy a 4 month old Bianchi Pista in my size for $400. Four bills can get a pretty decent wheelset built (all I would need are hubs since the rims are 27") but the Bianchi's got the bling. Plus, I'm a Bianchi nut to boot. What're your thoughts?
#3
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Well when I had the SOMA, I kept threatening to get down to the local Velodrome (Hellyer) but never made it before I sold it. I suppose I would mostly be riding it to/from work. I have a feeling I'd end up riding the Miyata more though than my other bikes eventually. It's old enough that there aren't many braze-ons, the derailer cable stops are all bolted on. The seatpost is also a funky 26.7mm size. Oh well, the quirks of an oldie. I do like the head badge though.
#4
I bet

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 0
That's a tough call-- if u spend money building up an old bike it's money gone down the drain since it won't ever be worth what you spend on it. Unless ur real handy urself then it might be-- im not.
I say get the pista if ur not a mechanic and fix this one up if ur. Either way, making this a ss would be the cheapest option, followed by finding a 27" fixed gear rear wheel.
I say get the pista if ur not a mechanic and fix this one up if ur. Either way, making this a ss would be the cheapest option, followed by finding a 27" fixed gear rear wheel.
#5
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
I build and fix my own bikes except where very expensive special tools are needed, i.e. headset cups and crowns, etc. If I keep the Miyata, I may try my hand at rebuilding the wheels with flip flop hubs.
#7
Buy the Bianchi. You know you want to.
Put the Miyata in the garage and build it up later. Where's the dilemma.
Put the Miyata in the garage and build it up later. Where's the dilemma.
#8
Better than you since 83!
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,117
Likes: 0
From: Up a big F'ing Hill
Bikes: Fixed Gear 79 Schwinn Sprint
Personally I'd build up the Miyata. I enjoy building and converting the bikes myself rather than just buying a sweet ride from the go. But thats just me. Its also a great opportunity but don't go flip flop, no one flips thier flop, it tends to be a waste of money.
As far as going 700c yeah it'll work, but you can still find 27's nowadays so there no real reason to, but once again, that's just my opinion.
As far as going 700c yeah it'll work, but you can still find 27's nowadays so there no real reason to, but once again, that's just my opinion.
#9
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 997
Likes: 0
keep the miyata. fix the current rear for 100 bucks (or just screw on a cog for free, if you subscribe).
Take the remaining 300 bucks and buy your SO something nice. Or give to charity. Or get a tat and post pics on 'show us your ink'. or something better than another bike for the heck of it.
Take the remaining 300 bucks and buy your SO something nice. Or give to charity. Or get a tat and post pics on 'show us your ink'. or something better than another bike for the heck of it.
#11
Originally Posted by MKRG
I wouldn't bother with 27's just build up 700's. The brake will probably reach.
This was my thinking in converting 27s to 700s. The brakes reached, until the pads had worn down about half-way. Then the pads were rubbing on the tires themselves. Pop! Hiss! New Tire! New Pads! Make sure this won't happen if you decide to go with 700s.
#12
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
I decided to keep the Miyata. I'll rebuild the 27s with hubs or get 700s whichever I find a deal for first. I kinda want a freewheel because of the long steep hill I live on (need low gear to climb but don't want to spin 200rpm goin' down :EEK
. I'll see, 46x19 was maybe too small a gear, maybe I'll try 40x16.
It does have a bunch of paint chips and will need to be taken care of. Rattle-can? Color or Clear-Coat?
. I'll see, 46x19 was maybe too small a gear, maybe I'll try 40x16.It does have a bunch of paint chips and will need to be taken care of. Rattle-can? Color or Clear-Coat?
#13
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 997
Likes: 0
dude, if you're going with a freewheel, you DEFINATELY dont need to rebuild the rear (you actually dont even need to for a fixie, but many here debate that). Screw the current freewheel off; screw on an bmx freewheel. Youre done. viola.
You may need to add a spacer or change the ring from inside to out (or vice verse) for a perfect chainline, but that should be about it...
You may need to add a spacer or change the ring from inside to out (or vice verse) for a perfect chainline, but that should be about it...
#14
Rebel Thousandaire
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 733
Likes: 1
From: Hartford, CT
Bikes: Public D8, Yuba Mundo (cargo), Novara Buzz (1-speed, soon to be 2-speed w/ a kickback hub), Xootr 1-speed folder
Why not build the fixie (because fixed gear is the way of champions) and put two brakes on for the long downhill? That way you can just unclip and let the pedals spin, player-piano style, and brake when you get to the bottom.
#15
Originally Posted by BlastRadius
I decided to keep the Miyata. I'll rebuild the 27s with hubs or get 700s whichever I find a deal for first. I kinda want a freewheel because of the long steep hill I live on (need low gear to climb but don't want to spin 200rpm goin' down :EEK
. I'll see, 46x19 was maybe too small a gear, maybe I'll try 40x16.
It does have a bunch of paint chips and will need to be taken care of. Rattle-can? Color or Clear-Coat?
. I'll see, 46x19 was maybe too small a gear, maybe I'll try 40x16.It does have a bunch of paint chips and will need to be taken care of. Rattle-can? Color or Clear-Coat?
Yeah I faced the same issue w/my old Schwinn since I live on the very top of a mountain and our road is almost straight up (only 2 switchbacks) I stuck with freewheeling.
I do agree that the old bike has more soul, well the bike doesn't have more soul but fixing-up and riding it does,,,,,,
We waste and throw away,,,way,way too much stuff
Its not having what you want,its wanting what you got...
Ok enough preaching time to throw a leg over the bike and head out to work---JJ
www.vailcycleworks.com
#18
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Looks like I'll need rims... I thought the side to side play was just the wheel needing a true but the guys at the shop said the rim is toast although there are not visible signs of damage. I may get a second opinion.
Thanks for all the suggestions... and wasn't it the chick Lance is dating that said "Its not having what you want,its wanting what you got..."?
Thanks for all the suggestions... and wasn't it the chick Lance is dating that said "Its not having what you want,its wanting what you got..."?
#20
Senior Member

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 206
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Bikes: 1978 Rampar R-10 BMX, 1988 Specialized Hardrock, 1999 Mongoose Hoop D, 2001 Schwinn Predator BMX, Generic Beach Cruiser
Save a Miyata, avoid a landfill!
I just finished building up a mid-80s Schwinn Traveler as an S/S with 700c wheels, and it's more fun than any other bike I've built! Fast, simple, quiet. I used a 42-tooth chainring and a 18-tooth BMX freewheel. Perfect for my commute!
I just finished building up a mid-80s Schwinn Traveler as an S/S with 700c wheels, and it's more fun than any other bike I've built! Fast, simple, quiet. I used a 42-tooth chainring and a 18-tooth BMX freewheel. Perfect for my commute!
#21
Thread Starter
Direct Hit Not Required

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,193
Likes: 2
From: San Bruno, CA
Bikes: Leopard DC1, Ridley X-Fire, GT Zaskar 9r
Almost done repainting the ole Miyata.
Not too bad for rattlecan Almond and Rustoleum gloss red if I do say so myself.
Just a spray of Rustoleum clear coat and I'll start building her up.
Not too bad for rattlecan Almond and Rustoleum gloss red if I do say so myself.
Just a spray of Rustoleum clear coat and I'll start building her up.
Last edited by BlastRadius; 11-02-04 at 10:43 PM.





