Does anyone know where you can get a pair of these? I've looked around online and only found the 'deep' ones. My LBS can't seem to find them at all, deep or otherwise. TIA

Universal Cycles has them:

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=39799

Do they need to be MKS? What about these?

https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=8451

So the cutoff for M/L for toe clips seems to be size 8... I am size 8. Should I go with Ls or are they gonna be huge.

To put it in perspective, I wear a 12 and larges are just right. Unless you wear big bulky skate shoes, you should use mediums.

I have a size 8, And i use medium and they are fine.

The ones from Universal are the right ones but are still the 'deep' model, for shoes with bigger 'toeboxes', i.e. the ones i don't want. I'm looking for the regular size.

I actually ordered a pair of the CKC on ebay for dirt cheap, thinking 'how bad could they be'. turns out they're the worst toe-clip possible. just horrid, mks only from now on. thanks though.

I had a set of CKC doubles on my Madison for a while and they were just fine.

You'll most likely need to order the MKS doubles from somewhere in Europe or Japan. Even then, the deep ones are more common.

I wear 8.5 with medium MKS. Feels good bro.

Excellent, thanks dudes.