Thoughts on the Freedom Thickslicks.
#1
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Still kicking.


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Thoughts on the Freedom Thickslicks.
Going to be upfront with this. Initially when I first got them last month they were great. Today I found that the front tire has developed bulges in two spots. One on the tread surface, the other on the sidewall. When I have a tire go bad on me, it's almost always the rear tire. So having it be the front took me by surprise, removed them from the bike they were on and threw on a GrandPrix 4000 on the front and a grandprix 4 seasons on the back.
I would say stick to gatorskins, armadillos, pasela tourguards Vittoria Randoneurs. The thickslicks really are not worth the $$$ afterall in my opinion.
I would say stick to gatorskins, armadillos, pasela tourguards Vittoria Randoneurs. The thickslicks really are not worth the $$$ afterall in my opinion.
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Hmm maybe give them a second chance? Sounds like a factory flop.... have you tried to explain what happened to whoever makes thickslicks for a replacement?
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The internet, how the **** does it work?
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
#9
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8
The internet, how the **** does it work?
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
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#11
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The internet, how the **** does it work?
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
https://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618
https://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
But thanks for the links, I appreciate it.
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#15
Your cog is slipping.



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https://www.treefortbikes.com/product...hickSlick.html
I kinda hate Randos. Sure, they're tough as Hell on steroids but I find them to be pretty sluggish, even when over the recommended psi.
#17
Your cog is slipping.



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Whether or not a Schrader valve will work depends on the rim, not the tire. If you've got rims drilled for Schraders, you'll have no trouble.
25s are rated for 65-110 psi and 28s are 65-100 (but I've got about 120 in my rear 28).
25s are rated for 65-110 psi and 28s are 65-100 (but I've got about 120 in my rear 28).
#19
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i have a thickslick, albeit i think one of the cheaper models. i have allot of tires. like, allot just hanging around that i dont use lol anywho....
the first time i tried this thickslick i threw it on the back of my road bike. and tried it for the first time in rainy conditions. i thought slicks were supposed to be more grippy but my back tire skidded a touch on tighter turns, did it a handful of times. i took it off and put a fyxation 700x23c on the back instead. IMO just from personal experience, fyxations have excellent grip, and feel solid in tight turns. they have wrap around tread but i think whatever material they use just seems/feels grippier.
anywho im giving the thickslick a second chance on the front now that its getting hotter/sunnier. perhaps they just need to be worn in or something i dunno
the first time i tried this thickslick i threw it on the back of my road bike. and tried it for the first time in rainy conditions. i thought slicks were supposed to be more grippy but my back tire skidded a touch on tighter turns, did it a handful of times. i took it off and put a fyxation 700x23c on the back instead. IMO just from personal experience, fyxations have excellent grip, and feel solid in tight turns. they have wrap around tread but i think whatever material they use just seems/feels grippier.
anywho im giving the thickslick a second chance on the front now that its getting hotter/sunnier. perhaps they just need to be worn in or something i dunno
#23
People ask, "But don't slick tires get slippery on wet roads, or worse yet, wet metal features such as expansion joints, paint stripes, or railroad tracks?" The answer is, yes, they do. So do tires with tread. All tires are slippery in these conditions. Tread features make no improvement in this.
-sheldon
-sheldon
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is it complete and utter blasphemy to disagree with one point made by the great sheldon brown? im not going off of fancy physics, just personal experience....2 slick tires ive ridden didn't seem that grippy on concrete roads, especially in wet conditions, while more treaded tires ive ridden (like the fyxations with tread on the walls) seemed much more grippy, especially in turns in wet condtions.
perhaps both tire and road material has some factor on tire grip. people say slicks have more grip since there is more surface contact but i would think a treaded tire with grippier tire material would be more grippy than a slick with more slippery material....
the cheapo thickslick i bought has a material that definitely feels more slick while the fyxation i have feels much more....tacky i guess. i dunno
perhaps both tire and road material has some factor on tire grip. people say slicks have more grip since there is more surface contact but i would think a treaded tire with grippier tire material would be more grippy than a slick with more slippery material....
the cheapo thickslick i bought has a material that definitely feels more slick while the fyxation i have feels much more....tacky i guess. i dunno
#25
my point was based off of personal experience and extensive research from when i use to do track days (motorcycle / cars) racing. slicks usually come with softer rubber compound and provides better grip due to full contact patch vs a treaded tires. think of treaded tires like nubs on mtb tires, it is suppose to disperse water when riding over wet surface. i dont know how different this applies to bicycle tires, but id assume the concept is the same.
slick tires should be pretty sticky once broken in. then again, it depends on how soft the rubber is and the condition of the weather. soft rubbers will become hard in cold condition and softer in warm/hot condition. thats why there is a difference between winter and summer tires.
obviously in wet/loose surface, any tires will not perform at 100%.
slick tires should be pretty sticky once broken in. then again, it depends on how soft the rubber is and the condition of the weather. soft rubbers will become hard in cold condition and softer in warm/hot condition. thats why there is a difference between winter and summer tires.
obviously in wet/loose surface, any tires will not perform at 100%.



