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Mumonkan 03-13-13 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 15382779)
it's a medium, pretty azn size

id buy it, but i think it might be a smidge too small

Nagrom_ 03-13-13 08:22 PM

Should I sell my Novatecs to A23's to fund Novatecs to Archetypes?

I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.

New build would be:
Front:
28h Archetype
Sapim Lasers
Sapim Brass nipples
Novatec A291SB or A141SB
2 cross

Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross

jdgesus 03-13-13 08:56 PM

should i have my frame builder buddy with a CNC lathe mill down my dura ace 7800 hub so i can run other cassettes besides 10sp shimano?

Adrian_ 03-13-13 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 15383846)
Should I sell my Novatecs to A23's to fund Novatecs to Archetypes?

Ya, go for it so I can stare at your bike some more.


Originally Posted by jdgesus (Post 15384028)
should i have my frame builder buddy with a CNC lathe mill down my dura ace 7800 hub so i can run other cassettes besides 10sp shimano?

If there aren't any negative repercussions after, why not?


Should I buy a few pairs of new bib shorts or a few pairs of new jeans?

I only have 2 bibs, but on the other hand i've been ignoring my wardrobe for about a year and spending literally all my money on bike stuff(finishing my pake and now my cdale.)

yummygooey 03-13-13 09:42 PM

i only had two pairs of bibs over the summer and i was just rotating them every day.

BUT if you go the bib route, and if you don't already have some... i would recommend investing in some nice bibs. i notice a big difference in the chamois quality and placement between my $110+ primal custom bibs versus my $40 pearl izumis. i'd wear my primals every ride if it were hygienic.

Mumonkan 03-13-13 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian_ (Post 15384166)
i've been ignoring my wardrobe for about a year and spending literally all my money on bike stuff


lol, i realized i was doing this around christmas time so ive started to buy some new clothes again

i say buy an equal amount of both (2 & 2), fulfill both needs

elemtee 03-13-13 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 15383846)
Should I sell my Novatecs to A23's to fund Novatecs to Archetypes?

I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.

Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross

I recently went back to 23mm wide rims, front A23 for the time being. But very recently built up a 32h Archetype 3x with lasers and VO track hub and its been amazing, so I say yes! My front is laced 2x w/ the A23 but not in a huge hurry to replace it with an archetype but I will eventually.

Nagrom_ 03-13-13 09:56 PM

The A23's are great, don't get me wrong. They handle amazing, but the rubbing is ridiculous. My calipers have to be pretty much open to stop them from rubbing.

I'm hoping the Archetypes handle similarly, but will be stiffer.

Adrian_ 03-13-13 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 15384200)
i only had two pairs of bibs over the summer and i was just rotating them every day.

if you don't already have some... i would recommend investing in some nice bibs.

Anything you would suggest other then rapha?(I know it's extremely nice, just can't justify spending that much money)

Nagrom_ 03-13-13 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian_ (Post 15384248)
Anything you would suggest other then rapha?(I know it's extremely nice, just can't justify spending that much money)

Specialized bibs are great.

Why not get a pair of bibs and a pair of jeans? instead of all or nothing?

TMonk 03-13-13 10:02 PM

nagrom - i would say a deeper rim is in order, as well is higher spoke count. don't know what your A23's are spoke count wise, but I would go one step up with a deeper rim too.

jdg - if your friend has means to precisely characterize the dimensions of the hub and is good with some g-code software like autocad or solid works, then absolutely CNC that ****. If he plans on operating the machine manually, then do what you want but those are expensive hubs and you better have a lot of trust in this guy.

Adrian_ 03-13-13 10:05 PM

Honestly i'm trying to get my cdale together as as fast as I can. I can buy nice bibs or nice jeans OR by both and dip into my groupset fund in the process which i'm trying to avoid but slowly considering.

Nagrom_ 03-13-13 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 15384261)
nagrom - i would say a deeper rim is in order, as well is higher spoke count. don't know what your A23's are spoke count wise, but I would go one step up with a deeper rim too.

My thoughts exactly. My A23's are 24/28 2 cross, so that's exactly what I'm considering. Deeper rim, and 28/32, 3 cross.

I'm kinda done worrying about weight. Don't really want to sacrifice performance for a handful of grams.
****, the caad will still be under 15.5.

elemtee 03-13-13 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 15384246)
I'm hoping the Archetypes handle similarly, but will be stiffer.

Word. I would agree with this statement based on these two rear wheels. I really like and still have the A23 hoop on standby.

current - 32h archetype (slightly deeper rim) to high flange hub with lasers. just a solid rim from the time you unpack it, and through the build and out to the road.

previous- 32h A23 to 105 hub with dt comp spokes. solid wheel overall and yes they handle just as well.

if you can get anything from that, cool, but the current rim is staying put.

DanBell 03-13-13 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian_ (Post 15384248)
Anything you would suggest other then rapha?(I know it's extremely nice, just can't justify spending that much money)

dhb gear on Wiggle.co.uk (their house brand) is great. Excellent quality, great prices. Almost all of my cycling clothing is dhb.

jdgesus 03-13-13 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 15384261)
jdg - if your friend has means to precisely characterize the dimensions of the hub and is good with some g-code software like autocad or solid works, then absolutely CNC that ****. If he plans on operating the machine manually, then do what you want but those are expensive hubs and you better have a lot of trust in this guy.

he does. all CNC
he built my custom track bike and my cycle truck.
im sure he'll want to do it just to say he did (crazy kids)
also, FU SHIMANO FOR MAKING SOMETHING SO SPECIFIC

yummygooey 03-13-13 11:23 PM

do it and then sell to me

yummygooey 03-13-13 11:24 PM

don't mess it up tho

Muffin Man 03-14-13 08:22 AM

Park pcs 10 for 100 bux. Yes or no?

Jaytron 03-14-13 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Muffin Man (Post 15385316)
Park pcs 10 for 100 bux. Yes or no?

SHHHHH I'm trying to buy it (Yes)

I don't like my Spin doctor one, it has 3 legs and takes up a ton of space. I'd be willing to trade you +cash if you bought the pcs10

Muffin Man 03-14-13 08:39 AM

Haha whatstand do you have?

Jaytron 03-14-13 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Muffin Man (Post 15385378)
Haha whatstand do you have?

http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._400005_400005

Nagrom_ 03-14-13 11:56 AM

Should I use red hubs on the archetypes? I think a few more red splashes would look good on the caad.

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/2012-cann...8cm-8419_2.jpg

Mumonkan 03-14-13 12:16 PM

Yup, especially if theyre low flange

TMonk 03-14-13 12:16 PM

^
thats hawt. red hubs would be kewl, but possibly ever so slightly overkill. either way imo


Originally Posted by jdgesus (Post 15384422)
he does. all CNC
he built my custom track bike and my cycle truck.
im sure he'll want to do it just to say he did (crazy kids)
also, FU SHIMANO FOR MAKING SOMETHING SO SPECIFIC

Sick well do it up! Make sure you post pics.
We have a CNC at work that some of my co-workers operate. I'd like to come in during off-hours a couple hrs/week and teach myself how to operate it and how to use software like solidworks. Same goes w the 3d printer.


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