The "Should I..." Thread
#4280
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2011
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From: las vegas
Bikes: purty blue undefeated II 57cm
So should I get a pilot/flite 100 in 57? My pake was 57 and I can a 100mm stem
This was it
pake rum runner - Pedal Room
This was it
pake rum runner - Pedal Room
#4281
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
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From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
#4282
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
So today I removed all the remaining parts from the Vilano that I had not already transferred to the Motobecane Messenger whose parts I had transferred to the Leader Cretin. So now I'm just left with a bare frame and fork, which are pretty much worthless and I'll never build up again. Should I just throw it out with the next trash pickup or can you think of any practical use for it ?
#4285
THE STUFFED


Joined: Oct 2009
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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8
So today I removed all the remaining parts from the Vilano that I had not already transferred to the Motobecane Messenger whose parts I had transferred to the Leader Cretin. So now I'm just left with a bare frame and fork, which are pretty much worthless and I'll never build up again. Should I just throw it out with the next trash pickup or can you think of any practical use for it ?
#4287
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Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Union County, NJ
Bikes: Dolan Pre Cursa, Cannondale R400
Should I go with the recently restocked On One Pompino, or pre-order the Mash work frameset?


Pompino is cheaper, in stock, known/reviewed frame. Mash is pricier, prettier, but Mash can't even list a proper geo chart for the thing, which means I'm guessing a 57 will fit, also won't ship till end of April.
Bike will be my do everything bike, allowing me use use my Pre Cursa solely on track.
Pompino is cheaper, in stock, known/reviewed frame. Mash is pricier, prettier, but Mash can't even list a proper geo chart for the thing, which means I'm guessing a 57 will fit, also won't ship till end of April.
Bike will be my do everything bike, allowing me use use my Pre Cursa solely on track.
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#4289
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I have a state bicycle undefeated. I got it used off ebay and i was sent one that had way more cosmetic damage than pictured. I was compensated (state has great customer service) but the blemishes are getting on my nerves. This is my main track racing/ road riding bike. I have 3 options: get the 2015 undefeated frameset, get a bianchi pista, or get a cinelli vigorelli? any input? as much as i love state, I kinda want to step up to the big boy bikes (and yes, I realize that you are paying for a brand name as well). I know the pista vs cinelli debate has been posted so many times so i decided to post in here. thanks
#4290
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
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^^^ You are not stepping up with the Vigorelli or Pista. The Undefeated is better than both, especially the Pista. If you like the Undefeated, I'd just get another one.
#4291
My only complaint is that it's pretty heavy but it's an XL and uncut stock fork still.
#4294
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
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#4295
So today I removed all the remaining parts from the Vilano that I had not already transferred to the Motobecane Messenger whose parts I had transferred to the Leader Cretin. So now I'm just left with a bare frame and fork, which are pretty much worthless and I'll never build up again. Should I just throw it out with the next trash pickup or can you think of any practical use for it ?
#4296
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I see. I'm not too keen on the undefeated look anymore. If I'm gonna upgrade at this point, I might as well just pay for what I really want. Is the cinelli's columbus aluminum really a difference maker?
#4297
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8
It's not really about discerning the mixture of aluminum at this point with high end aluminum. It's more about the shape of the aluminum tubes and geometry that count.
#4298
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#4299
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
Super Pista. Much tighter track geo.





