The "Should I..." Thread
#601
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Should I buy an internal gear hub system for my Traitor Luggernaut? The Spacing on the rear is 120mm with horizontal drop outs. I don't want to buy a road bike at this time and would like more freedom on the hills down here in Texas. Going to use this bike for light workouts over the Winter. I've already checked out the Sturmey Archer product offering but would like to know what other options are out there. Any help is appreciated
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#602
Should I buy an internal gear hub system for my Traitor Luggernaut? The Spacing on the rear is 120mm with horizontal drop outs. I don't want to buy a road bike at this time and would like more freedom on the hills down here in Texas. Going to use this bike for light workouts over the Winter. I've already checked out the Sturmey Archer product offering but would like to know what other options are out there. Any help is appreciated
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#604
Black.
They must like you. I don't know how you got a response so quickly on that day. I've tried to contact them twice and it seems like it's gonna take 2 business days to get a response unless they sneak one in to me here in the last few hours. Last time the 'hold order' button wouldn't hold my order and I ended up paying their full shipping price to ship some tubes because by the time they responded they had already shipped my shiz D:
btw the tubes they sell aren't boxed
btw the tubes they sell aren't boxed
#610
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: A1A
my "should i" q involves wabi wheels as well but before i get to it...
i am looking at my 10 day-old wabi wheelset & it is not a matte finish. they have a gloss finish, it is just not high-gloss. perhaps the right term would be semi-gloss?
Decepticondc5...do i understand correctly that you bought a wabi front wheel & are now searching for a rear to "match"? are you looking at alternatives just to get a deeper rim? to what purpose? if you are looking for what you think is a stronger wheel, lemme tell you...these things are pretty damn tough. i jump down & ride up curbs, go down small steps, & even rode them off-road too, including a little session at a mtb park & so far...no problemo. can only hope they hold up long-term to the abuse, but unless you are looking at other rims for your rear wheel just for looks...you may have goofed by not getting both wabis.
now on to my own dilemma...
i am planning a long road ride this weekend & the rear wheel on the bike i mean to use is really out-of-true so i swapped my new wabi set onto it yesterday & love the results. i was never unhappy with the other wheelset, am quite satisfied with their performance & even kinda like the flashy deep rims. but it is hard to describe what a pleasure it's been riding this bike for the past day on the wabi wheels & i am tempted to leave them on it.
but then my problem is what to do for wheels on my other bike, which i do take off-road pretty often & especially since blue wheels really do not match that bike. i would have to either buy another wheelset or somehow strip the powdercoat (or is it anodized?).
here is what my "road" bike looks like with the 2 different sets...

so after that cool story brah, my question is...
is it really worth the xtra trouble & expense to keep the wabis on this bike? or should i make it easy on myself & just put the blue wheels back on it & the wabis back onto the other?
i am looking at my 10 day-old wabi wheelset & it is not a matte finish. they have a gloss finish, it is just not high-gloss. perhaps the right term would be semi-gloss?
Decepticondc5...do i understand correctly that you bought a wabi front wheel & are now searching for a rear to "match"? are you looking at alternatives just to get a deeper rim? to what purpose? if you are looking for what you think is a stronger wheel, lemme tell you...these things are pretty damn tough. i jump down & ride up curbs, go down small steps, & even rode them off-road too, including a little session at a mtb park & so far...no problemo. can only hope they hold up long-term to the abuse, but unless you are looking at other rims for your rear wheel just for looks...you may have goofed by not getting both wabis.
now on to my own dilemma...
i am planning a long road ride this weekend & the rear wheel on the bike i mean to use is really out-of-true so i swapped my new wabi set onto it yesterday & love the results. i was never unhappy with the other wheelset, am quite satisfied with their performance & even kinda like the flashy deep rims. but it is hard to describe what a pleasure it's been riding this bike for the past day on the wabi wheels & i am tempted to leave them on it.
but then my problem is what to do for wheels on my other bike, which i do take off-road pretty often & especially since blue wheels really do not match that bike. i would have to either buy another wheelset or somehow strip the powdercoat (or is it anodized?).
here is what my "road" bike looks like with the 2 different sets...

so after that cool story brah, my question is...
is it really worth the xtra trouble & expense to keep the wabis on this bike? or should i make it easy on myself & just put the blue wheels back on it & the wabis back onto the other?
#611
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
This doesn't look like a gloss finish to me:

As far as your blue wheels are concerned, stripping the anodization and polishing can be done but it's a pain in the ass. I say sell them and buy what you want.

As far as your blue wheels are concerned, stripping the anodization and polishing can be done but it's a pain in the ass. I say sell them and buy what you want.
#612
Decepticondc5...do i understand correctly that you bought a wabi front wheel & are now searching for a rear to "match"? are you looking at alternatives just to get a deeper rim? to what purpose? if you are looking for what you think is a stronger wheel, lemme tell you...these things are pretty damn tough. i jump down & ride up curbs, go down small steps, & even rode them off-road too, including a little session at a mtb park & so far...no problemo. can only hope they hold up long-term to the abuse, but unless you are looking at other rims for your rear wheel just for looks...you may have goofed by not getting both wabis.

I am just over 200 and then i have about 40 pounds of **** with me at times ratting around campus
#613
Should I build my front H+Son SL42's with a 20 hole spoke count or should I stick with 32's? I ride my bike on and off the track so I'm not so sure if I should ride with a 20 in the front when I'm on the street.
#614
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: A1A
well, my wheel dilemma continues...
should i buy a set of new ellipses for $450?
my plan would be to put them on the plated bike pictured above. then i could put my wabis back on the bike they were meant for & try to sell my blue wheelset in order to recover a few bux.
while i have been trying to force myself to look more for shallow or box rims, i have to admit that i am a sucker for deep rims, so it is hard to pass-up a nice deal on the ellipses. but i do wonder if they work on that frame?
worst of all, the offer at this price expires at midnite so please, i need some feedback asap...
should i go for them?
merry xmas...
edit: btw, Decepticondc5...i weigh about 175 but i do beat the hell out of my wheels, wabis are holding up well so far
should i buy a set of new ellipses for $450?
my plan would be to put them on the plated bike pictured above. then i could put my wabis back on the bike they were meant for & try to sell my blue wheelset in order to recover a few bux.
while i have been trying to force myself to look more for shallow or box rims, i have to admit that i am a sucker for deep rims, so it is hard to pass-up a nice deal on the ellipses. but i do wonder if they work on that frame?
worst of all, the offer at this price expires at midnite so please, i need some feedback asap...
should i go for them?
merry xmas...
edit: btw, Decepticondc5...i weigh about 175 but i do beat the hell out of my wheels, wabis are holding up well so far
Last edited by markaitch; 12-25-11 at 01:29 PM.
#618
Just smang it.
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,295
Likes: 1
From: Bellingham
Bikes: Felt F1X, Kilo WT, Dawes Deadeye
Mmmmm... I almost wanna say dual polished Foers on that. I think they would go well with your silver and white. The bike is already pretty bright and shiny so they'd be right at home on it. - that is if weight isn't a big concern. Regardless of what you choose, I think you should try to match rims.
#619
My name is Alex
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,669
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From: PDX
Bikes: Mercier Kilo TT Stripper in RAW, Schwinn Madison 2008 Blue, Leader 725tr, Brassknuckle, Leader 722, Traitor Ruben
I would like to start a new thread but I'll go ahead and ask here:
Today I had a few questions answered while I was at the LBS about my first Canti setup... but all of my questions were not answered.
Basically... I am in need of cable hangers
for the front I have the option of a
Stem mount:

...Or I could go with a
fork mounted cable hanger:

Although a concern I had about fork mounted was the use of a fender as well as a front mounted rack.
...As for the rear setup I have the options of either a
seatpost clamp with integrated hanger:

...or something like the
Surly hanger...:

... Basically, this is my first cantilever setup and I never realized the amount of options one has for cable holders and the like. I will most likely go with a fork mounted cable guide (that performance one looks flush mount so adding a fender and rack look plausible) and for the rear I'll most likely go with a hanger (mostly to keep the cost down... It would be nice to find a funky monkey)...but I would love to hear about other peoples setups and what interesting things people have come across when setting up their canti bikes.
Today I had a few questions answered while I was at the LBS about my first Canti setup... but all of my questions were not answered.
Basically... I am in need of cable hangers
for the front I have the option of a
Stem mount:

...Or I could go with a
fork mounted cable hanger:

Although a concern I had about fork mounted was the use of a fender as well as a front mounted rack.
...As for the rear setup I have the options of either a
seatpost clamp with integrated hanger:

...or something like the
Surly hanger...:

... Basically, this is my first cantilever setup and I never realized the amount of options one has for cable holders and the like. I will most likely go with a fork mounted cable guide (that performance one looks flush mount so adding a fender and rack look plausible) and for the rear I'll most likely go with a hanger (mostly to keep the cost down... It would be nice to find a funky monkey)...but I would love to hear about other peoples setups and what interesting things people have come across when setting up their canti bikes.
#620
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 486
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From: spfd mo
Bikes: big block
okay options:
1. big block: love the geo love tire clearance no negatives besides i'm just itching for something different
2. 721 + i05 fork: geo looks okay besides the long-ass top tube (i'm thinking it would make sizing wonky), not sure on tire clearance but it's not confined to 23's so that's okay, alum + carbon is different than steel
3. any other recommendations? I'm pointing towards big block right now
1. big block: love the geo love tire clearance no negatives besides i'm just itching for something different
2. 721 + i05 fork: geo looks okay besides the long-ass top tube (i'm thinking it would make sizing wonky), not sure on tire clearance but it's not confined to 23's so that's okay, alum + carbon is different than steel
3. any other recommendations? I'm pointing towards big block right now
#621
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,854
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
I say keep the Big Block. It's the perfect frame for what you want and excellent quality as well. If you want to try something else like alu / carbon, then save your pennies and get build a second bike with the emphasis on lighter weight / stiffness / tighter geometry / smaller tires for the sense of performance when you want to feel fast and won't be riding bad roads.
OTOH
I have a 721tr that I've set up for speed and a Soma Rush that is for comfort. They're both awesome rides, but the Rush has much longer legs due to the comfort of steel over alu / carbon. The 721tr is like a razor with instant response and no flex, but a bit buzzy on anything by smooth surfaces. The Rush is like a refined German touring car, excellent handling with a firm but comfortable ride. The finish on the Rush is exemplary, whereas the 721tr is rough but competent. If you want something a bit more lively, but still want larger tires, get a Rush. It kinda splits the difference between the Big Block and the 721tr.
OTOH
I have a 721tr that I've set up for speed and a Soma Rush that is for comfort. They're both awesome rides, but the Rush has much longer legs due to the comfort of steel over alu / carbon. The 721tr is like a razor with instant response and no flex, but a bit buzzy on anything by smooth surfaces. The Rush is like a refined German touring car, excellent handling with a firm but comfortable ride. The finish on the Rush is exemplary, whereas the 721tr is rough but competent. If you want something a bit more lively, but still want larger tires, get a Rush. It kinda splits the difference between the Big Block and the 721tr.
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#622
Goes to 11.

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,548
Likes: 4
From: Wichita, KS, USA
Bikes: 2015 Soma Double Cross
I would like to start a new thread but I'll go ahead and ask here:
Today I had a few questions answered while I was at the LBS about my first Canti setup... but all of my questions were not answered.
Basically... I am in need of cable hangers
for the front I have the option of a
Stem mount:

...Or I could go with a
fork mounted cable hanger:

Although a concern I had about fork mounted was the use of a fender as well as a front mounted rack.
...As for the rear setup I have the options of either a
seatpost clamp with integrated hanger:

...or something like the
Surly hanger...:

... Basically, this is my first cantilever setup and I never realized the amount of options one has for cable holders and the like. I will most likely go with a fork mounted cable guide (that performance one looks flush mount so adding a fender and rack look plausible) and for the rear I'll most likely go with a hanger (mostly to keep the cost down... It would be nice to find a funky monkey)...but I would love to hear about other peoples setups and what interesting things people have come across when setting up their canti bikes.
Today I had a few questions answered while I was at the LBS about my first Canti setup... but all of my questions were not answered.
Basically... I am in need of cable hangers
for the front I have the option of a
Stem mount:

...Or I could go with a
fork mounted cable hanger:

Although a concern I had about fork mounted was the use of a fender as well as a front mounted rack.
...As for the rear setup I have the options of either a
seatpost clamp with integrated hanger:

...or something like the
Surly hanger...:

... Basically, this is my first cantilever setup and I never realized the amount of options one has for cable holders and the like. I will most likely go with a fork mounted cable guide (that performance one looks flush mount so adding a fender and rack look plausible) and for the rear I'll most likely go with a hanger (mostly to keep the cost down... It would be nice to find a funky monkey)...but I would love to hear about other peoples setups and what interesting things people have come across when setting up their canti bikes.
For the rear, I like the Surly cable hanger. It's dead simple to install and adjust, and looks cool too. However, it does force you to run a little more brake cable housing than Sheldon recommends (just look at the QBP image). Of course, you also have the option of digging through the parts bins at your local co-op and taking your pick of any number of options from the last 45 years or so... they all work just as well.
Last edited by striknein; 12-26-11 at 09:16 PM.
#623
My name is Alex
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,669
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From: PDX
Bikes: Mercier Kilo TT Stripper in RAW, Schwinn Madison 2008 Blue, Leader 725tr, Brassknuckle, Leader 722, Traitor Ruben
Update:
I went to check out performance's fork mount cable hanger (as it looks the best for a front rack) and they also had a seatpost collar with hanger... both on sale for $9.99 so I snagged them up. Can't wait to find a set of brakes and get this thing rolling.
I went to check out performance's fork mount cable hanger (as it looks the best for a front rack) and they also had a seatpost collar with hanger... both on sale for $9.99 so I snagged them up. Can't wait to find a set of brakes and get this thing rolling.
#625




