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#4426
Gator Hardshells have crappy sidewalls, IMO.
Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
#4427
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Gator Hardshells have crappy sidewalls, IMO.
Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
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#4428
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GP 4000 was hit or miss for me, had a set last until the chords, then had another set that only survived a week.
Between their two offerenings with the 4 seasons and the Gator Hardshell, I feel the 4 seasons is the better tire.
Between their two offerenings with the 4 seasons and the Gator Hardshell, I feel the 4 seasons is the better tire.
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#4430
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Your cog is slipping.



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#4431
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I remember your experience with the Pro4's.
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#4432
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone SLR9 Gen 8
You'll love them. I'm working my way through my second set this season. Basically they're your gatorskin but with improved protection and a much lower rolling resistance when put in comparison with the later.
#4433
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The 4000s is a great tire, been on mine for about 6 months; 20 miles daily with 0 issues.
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Any chance you could recommend a quality but budget friendly low-flange rear track hub (or hubset)?
#4436
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From: San Jose, CA
Bikes: CAAD 10 4, Dolan DF4, Fuji Track Classic
#4438
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Tomorrow the endurance training begins, it's definitely on this time. Should I make the him go through a climb that lasts for 3 miles with sections having a grade of over 12%?
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#4439
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Your cog is slipping.



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This is the dude who blew you off? I say dig deep and give the bastard everything you've got.
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#4441
Hub recomendation for 75% of people: Get yourself some formulas if you have a strange spacing, if not get some novatechs.
#4442
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So I may the guy suffer today in fact gave up after 10 miles. Now what?
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Yeah, he said he was too wiped out. He couldn't keep up on a 4% grade climb. He's going to have to find someone else to help him out the next time, I'm done with him. This was the same guy who made me wait an hour and a half before calling to say he wasn't going to make it back on Monday.
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I'm not aware of any low flange hubs by either of those folks. I'm not super opposed to high flange hubs. But, I do prefer the aesthetic of low-flange, and figured I'd try to find some affordable ones before I pull the trigger on another set.
#4446
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From: Orlando FL
Bikes: Pake, Surly Pacer, Kilo TT, Giant XTC, SE Stout, 853 Ritchey MTB
#4447
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Your cog is slipping.



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They're hard to come by in the US for some reason. eBay is your best bet.
#4448
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Your cog is slipping.



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Yeah, he said he was too wiped out. He couldn't keep up on a 4% grade climb. He's going to have to find someone else to help him out the next time, I'm done with him. This was the same guy who made me wait an hour and a half before calling to say he wasn't going to make it back on Monday.
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Otherwise I'll probably just suck it up and go with a circus monkey road hub in the front, and a lower-flange high flange hub, like the All-City New Sheriff in the back.
#4450
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Your cog is slipping.



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FWIW - the New Sheriff has a pretty standard size high flange.




