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Old 06-26-12 | 07:46 PM
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Gator Hardshells have crappy sidewalls, IMO.

Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
Have you ridden your GP4000's or your 4Seasons yet?
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Gator Hardshells have crappy sidewalls, IMO.

Not sure if you recall what happened when I tried Michelin Pro4s when they first came out but I literally had one blow right off my front rim while I was cornering at a pretty high speed and I still don't really understand how I pulled off not eating ****. The roadies can keep 'em.
That's how I did my set of hard shells in, sidewall tear.
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Have you ridden your GP4000's or your 4Seasons yet?
GP 4000 was hit or miss for me, had a set last until the chords, then had another set that only survived a week.

Between their two offerenings with the 4 seasons and the Gator Hardshell, I feel the 4 seasons is the better tire.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
GP 4000 was hit or miss for me, had a set last until the chords, then had another set that only survived a week.

Between their two offerenings with the 4 seasons and the Gator Hardshell, I feel the 4 seasons is the better tire.
Ever try the GP4000S's?

I just bought a set, wondering what I got myself into.
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Have you ridden your GP4000's or your 4Seasons yet?
Angie is currently riding GP4000s. I haven't ridden either but know a good number of people who swear by them.
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Ever try the GP4000S's?

I just bought a set, wondering what I got myself into.
No I have not, the GP4000S is a great tire, I know a bunch of people as well who swear by them, the black chili compound just does not work for me.

I remember your experience with the Pro4's.
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Ever try the GP4000S's?

I just bought a set, wondering what I got myself into.
You'll love them. I'm working my way through my second set this season. Basically they're your gatorskin but with improved protection and a much lower rolling resistance when put in comparison with the later.
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The 4000s is a great tire, been on mine for about 6 months; 20 miles daily with 0 issues.
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sounds like i got an awesome tire. thanks guys.
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Any chance you could recommend a quality but budget friendly low-flange rear track hub (or hubset)?
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Old 06-27-12 | 02:08 PM
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Ever try the GP4000S's?

I just bought a set, wondering what I got myself into.
Don't you dare skid with them.
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Old 06-27-12 | 08:16 PM
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Dude. Those nittos are stiff as f*ck.
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Tomorrow the endurance training begins, it's definitely on this time. Should I make the him go through a climb that lasts for 3 miles with sections having a grade of over 12%?
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This is the dude who blew you off? I say dig deep and give the bastard everything you've got.
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This is the dude who blew you off? I say dig deep and give the bastard everything you've got.
Yep. I figure I will start the all out effort where that climb starts.
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Hub recomendation for 75% of people: Get yourself some formulas if you have a strange spacing, if not get some novatechs.
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So I may the guy suffer today in fact gave up after 10 miles. Now what?
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Wait, some guy you're supposed to be endurance training with bailed after only 10 miles!?!?!
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Yeah, he said he was too wiped out. He couldn't keep up on a 4% grade climb. He's going to have to find someone else to help him out the next time, I'm done with him. This was the same guy who made me wait an hour and a half before calling to say he wasn't going to make it back on Monday.
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Hub recomendation for 75% of people: Get yourself some formulas if you have a strange spacing, if not get some novatechs.
I'm not aware of any low flange hubs by either of those folks. I'm not super opposed to high flange hubs. But, I do prefer the aesthetic of low-flange, and figured I'd try to find some affordable ones before I pull the trigger on another set.
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I'm not aware of any low flange hubs by either of those folks. I'm not super opposed to high flange hubs. But, I do prefer the aesthetic of low-flange, and figured I'd try to find some affordable ones before I pull the trigger on another set.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Novatec-Clas...item337781389d

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I'm not aware of any low flange hubs by either of those folks. I'm not super opposed to high flange hubs. But, I do prefer the aesthetic of low-flange, and figured I'd try to find some affordable ones before I pull the trigger on another set.
They're hard to come by in the US for some reason. eBay is your best bet.
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Yeah, he said he was too wiped out. He couldn't keep up on a 4% grade climb. He's going to have to find someone else to help him out the next time, I'm done with him. This was the same guy who made me wait an hour and a half before calling to say he wasn't going to make it back on Monday.
Three words: he's a ***** (rhymes with "stitch").
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Those are legit. But, they're out of stock on silver. And, according to the guy I asked- "Hi. Silver color will not come soon". I'll try and find those elsewhere though, I appreciate it!

Otherwise I'll probably just suck it up and go with a circus monkey road hub in the front, and a lower-flange high flange hub, like the All-City New Sheriff in the back.
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FWIW - the New Sheriff has a pretty standard size high flange.
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