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Old 01-08-15, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Leukybear
Oh you bet. Leaders too.
good to know. I figured most of those are used in crits.
I am planning on building up a pre-cursa again to try some track riding/racing.
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Jeezus.. I'd hate to get anywhere near wind in that thing
That was my first thought. I'd prefer to use on an indoor track... if i could find one.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear
Oh you bet. Leaders too.
Do people use steel on the track? Yes I assume. I'll have a Wabi classic built up here in a few weeks. Never been to the track before and I don't have enough money to just build an extra strictly track bike. I'll need to buy some drops too since I've only ever owned horns.
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Keirin bikes are steel and raced on the track.

There is a continental road team(Madison Genesis) that uses steel bikes; does very well in single day races and criteriums.

Meanwhile, have you ever seen longer flats on a handlebar than on these Phillips Professionel handlebars on this 1950's Rene Herse SS?

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Keirin bikes are steel and raced on the track.

There is a continental road team(Madison Genesis) that uses steel bikes; does very well in single day races and criteriums.

Meanwhile, have you ever seen longer flats on a handlebar than on these Phillips Professionel handlebars on this 1950's Rene Herse SS?

Hot! That headlight is so cool. And the way it brackets with the fender to the fork is trick.
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Love the bike but hate that saddle.
Most cinelli saddles are hatchets; that's a volare on that laser.
Its cousin, the volare SLX is borderline tolerable however. Being the bastard child of a turbo and a concor.

People dont realize but vintage cinelli saddles are only rare because nobody bought them in the first place hence not necessitating more production
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I see Cinelli still produces the Unicanator and I can't imagine who is buying them.
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new unicanitors are like, hard, right? ive heard. i have a seventies on, with foam padding and leather, the shell is actually very flexible, i know if this one didnt even have the padding it'd still be great, esp. in hot weather when the seats even MORE flexy. but yeah i heard the new ones were rock hard and the only padded one has some dumb art on it

anyways

anyone got this setup? im tryna grip soon
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People dont realize but vintage cinelli saddles are only rare because nobody bought them in the first place hence not necessitating more production





everyone bought them in the first place, only certain deadstock or weird stitching ones are rare, you can get used unicanitors everywhere for years from now. never pay more than 50 for one, if you can help it. i want one of those 60's ones that are like green or peach color? those rule

i like old unica nitors, concors, turbos mostly. ive seen some great looking old brooks pros. im gonna try an smp sometime
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I was talking in a general sense and addressing the common perception among people viewing them as "rare" due to their uncommonness.

Put in comparison with say turbos and concors, cinelli saddle numbers (combined*) are a far cry from just a single one of those.
Another thing to ask is why were cinelli's saddles discontinued at one point? Why wasn't there continuous production to the modern day with modern offerings sharing direct design and features from their predecessors?
Display/ show bikes aside, how many cinelli saddles have seen in the wild being ridden on? We all know MASH is in bed with cinelli and none of their riders sport a cinelli saddle or a promo pic with one. Not even their sponsored riders riding all of those "best of" bikes.

Even the promo shots for & public display of their heralded and legendary laser frameset revive sported either a turbo or regal with the logos conveniently blacked out.




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They tried and failed and decided to do what they do best make bike framesets, tubing, and bar tape.
But there are modern cinelli saddles today? Look closer, they're made by prologo.

Yes some people did buy them. From my buying of classic bikes, it's usually italian bikes that have them because of previous owner continuity. Oh and campy.

The peach unicanitor one *covered in suede* with a wishbonesk set of rails?
I actually have one of those back in the bay area in my bin of unmentionable saddles.

Yes, they are that bad. Right alongside kashimax saddles. Been there, tried that. No ty.
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weird. every plastic shelled saddle ive ever tried was always pretty hard but this one old unicanitor #3 i got is flexible as heck. i mean id rather be on a brooks pro but this ones way lighter


i dont really like new cinelli stuff that much any way, or any of their other saddles. at least they still make 1a stems and 66 bars, yeah!
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Originally Posted by Leukybear
I was talking in a general sense and addressing the common perception among people viewing them as "rare" due to their uncommonness.

Put in comparison with say turbos and concors, cinelli saddle numbers (combined*) are a far cry from just a single one of those.
Another thing to ask is why were cinelli's saddles discontinued at one point? Why wasn't there continuous production to the modern day with modern offerings sharing direct design and features from their predecessors?
Display/ show bikes aside, how many cinelli saddles have seen in the wild being ridden on? We all know MASH is in bed with cinelli and none of their riders sport a cinelli saddle or a promo pic with one. Not even their sponsored riders riding all of those "best of" bikes.

Even the promo shots for & public display of their heralded and legendary laser frameset revive sported either a turbo or regal with the logos conveniently blacked out.




/relevant on topic pics

They tried and failed and decided to do what they do best make bike framesets, tubing, and bar tape.
But there are modern cinelli saddles today? Look closer, they're made by prologo.

Yes some people did buy them. From my buying of classic bikes, it's usually italian bikes that have them because of previous owner continuity. Oh and campy.

The peach unicanitor one *covered in suede* with a wishbonesk set of rails?
I actually have one of those back in the bay area in my bin of unmentionable saddles.

Yes, they are that bad. Right alongside kashimax saddles. Been there, tried that. No ty.
Sucks that Cinelli bar tape is made in Asia now.
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Originally Posted by bro
anyone got this setup? im tryna grip soon
Oops missed this part.
I have close to that set up except with metal double cages and exustar laminated doubles on my paddywagon.
Nylon cages flex way too much imo.
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Old 01-19-15, 05:37 PM
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hmm well i'd have the straps only through the first part of the buckle, with strap buttons, i i cant tighten them up. then flex might not be an issue. but, heard. i've never had nylon cages, but they look comfyyyy.

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^^ Hnnng.
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The "do not touch sign" is only there so they dont have to keep wiping the drool off of it at the end of the day.
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Could've saved more weight by pulling off that valve cap.
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I cannot find it now but IIRC there was a small discussion about a year ago in the C&V sub-forum with more details about that Ultralight Panasonic...
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