I've been able to get my loose ball hubs to spin smoother than many of my sealed bearing hubs (Formula, Mavic) but it's such a huge hassle to have to repack them. It's not like I notice it when I'm on the bike anyways.

having cartridge bearing wheels slowly develop play is way more annoying to me. i don't see the big hassle. getting cartridge bearings seated correctly can be much more annoying than adjusting a loose ball hub. but that's just me, apparently.

I really have no standing on this "cartridge vs. loose ball" argument as I don't do much work on my bikes myself. Having said that, I think https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1837 looks the best so far, can anyone give me any downsides to getting that set? I should have re-stated my first post, I'm going to be riding on streets but I go fast over bumps and my front HED 3 was getting some chips and I felt it was going to crack soon, so I got rid of it.

If anyone has any suggestion for just a front wheel instead of a wheel set then please also post that, I have a rear wheel right now but it's not great.

That's a great wheelset but heavy, Phil hubs are bricks but that also means that they overengineered (in a good way).

One more thing, I don't think the Velocity's are machined and I tend to use a front brake so velocity's wouldn't really be possible.

Get an aerospoke. For the rear.

I used to run dual-aerospokes until I realized how heavy they are, plus I live in a city where Aerospokes get a lot of attention, which gets me robbed.