hahah!

you just wait till you get older......

The Breed is a sweet bike but has that stupid 135mm dropout spacing.

oooof, so nice

and that stupid singlespeed cassette hub... o wait. not stupid.

I have literally had dreams about this bike.

Surly x-check is good...

I'm leaning towards a custom built steel, or an ibis ti frame.

Kinda zombie thread revive, but the Civilian Le Roi Le Vuet can be made into a geared bike right?

sure can, and vice versa.

They also offer a geared version, if you didn't know.

Sweeetttttt.
Im trying to sell my road bike frame, wheels, and brakes, so I can just transfer all the shifting stuff to the Civilian if I want to run it geared.

sweet.

crap that raleigh is tits, but $

That Civilian looks so great, so tempted! The only thing is I read it's quite heavy which isn't great for CX.
Otherwise, it's like the ideal bike...[mouthwatering!]

When I raced, I had an Empella Bonfire. It was around 17lbs. Loved that bike, looked exactly like this
https://www.pbase.com/onespeed/empella_bonfire_cx

Ridley X-Fire, X-Bow, XRide, Xnight
Van Dessel Full Tilt Boogie
Raleigh Hodala

Competitive Cyclist weighed the SS Civ to be 16.78lbs, and the geared Civ to be 18.53lbs.

That's not bad at all.

man, that's great. I read it was like 25lbs, which sounded astronomically heavy.
Oooo you are making my fingers twitch for the credit card...

Oh, well let me continue to help.

They're both on sale, including free shipping and unconditional lifetime returns.
SS: https://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...ut--10923.html ($891.65 [reg. $1049])
Geared: https://www.competitivecyclist.com/fr...oi--10924.html ($1274.15 [reg. $1499])

dammmmmn french or pea?....if I do this i'll have 6 bikes....jeez

I really like the look of the sweat pea, but you can't go wrong with classic white/red.

Especially covered in mud.

Looking at the specs- 4130db tubes and the components/wheels, there's no way it's under 20lbs. But, still very awesome ride... are you running "the will of the king" or waiting to get it?

I'd be surprised if their weights are too far off. They weigh the bikes in house, and usually use the middle size, 53 or 55.

I'm strongly thinking about getting one, probably at the start of winter.

so am I now, thanks to you

hahaha, I've said it before. It's in my top 3 favorite bikes list, and I don't know the other two.

Im 95% sure thats going to be my next bike. If I can sell my road bike now...

good thread. i want a sscx bike too. that civilian looks good, except for the brakes. if it had canti studs, my search would be over. i say no to disk brakes. i have too many wheels already, and disks eliminate interchangeability.