So I need to by a one and done bike for around $400 for my brothers Bday. I have no idea whats worth it out there as far as all in one packages are concerned. Help please!

www.bikesdirect.com

^^ Specifically the Kilo TT

If you know what kind of bike he wants, it'd be great to tell us. BikesDirect is giong to be your best chance.

Thanks for the suggestions, I really don't know what he wants as I'm trying to surprise him. The reason I'm getting him a bike is because he uses my Surly steamroller which leaves me out of a bike. I want something for him as close to the Surly as possible.

If he likes your steamroller look at the Kilo WT. It's basically a carbon copy of the Steamroller (geometry is identical I belive). They are out of a lot of sizes so not sure what he rides.

After careful consideration I went with the BIGSHOT-green frt rim, purplre frt tire, org bck rim, blk bck tire, red crank, green frame, yellow seat, pink chain and blk grips....JK

I bought him the KiloTT, I think he is going to love it..

I appreciate all the suggestions as it hard to know what's what for me at this price range,thanks again...

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Man that's a great bike site. Wish I would've known about it sooner.
I'm not qualified to build a bike, so I'd have to take it to a shop for that but it would still be a sweet deal I bet. What does a shop charge to build a bike usually?

I obviously can't speak for all shops but we charge $40-50 for a fixed gear/single speed.

That's not bad at all. Damnit, now I want a new bike. Not gonna happen though. I have no need/reason. Nothing wrong with the ride I have now, 'cept it's ugly. =^(

I am not against the fashion side of riding but it's no fun when you miles from home and things start to fall apart and your stuck somewhere. Plus I don't have tons of money and would like to get the most out of it. Although I guess if you are buying cause the rims match your crank your probably only going down the street for a venti triple macchiatos ''skinny'' with pumpkin spice,lols,JK..

Scrod, I hoped someone I would get someone with that.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I didn't want to create a new thread for this question. I have a Trek Soho S, at first I really liked it but now...not anymore.

The soho S has good parts, Thomson stem and seatpost and B43s...and instead of buying a whole new bike I wanted to save money by just getting a frame...I was looking at this..

https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1084

Kilo tt frame...is this a reliable site?

Also any suggestions on frames around 200?

It is.