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Geared fixie. Crazy?

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Old 02-24-13 | 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the responses.
I recently heard about these and thought they might be an interesting solution for all the hills we have here in the Piedmont. Some routes I simply avoid when riding fixed. We even have one hill we lovingly call "puke peak".

I will do more research on these.
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Old 02-24-13 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeyteeth
It would be awesome to run ancient Campagnolo Corsa with a custom fixed cog.


I'm not sure how well the Cambio Corsa would work as a fixed gear. Without the ability to freewheel, I suspect it would be tricky to shift gears without the wheel running out of the dropouts.
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Old 02-24-13 | 08:58 PM
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You also have to pedal backwards to shift gears.
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Old 02-24-13 | 09:33 PM
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Oh, yeah... It would need to make a full revolution of the wheel for the chain to change cogs, so I guess it would exit the dropout before completing the shift.
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Old 02-24-13 | 09:57 PM
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To say nothing of chainline issues.
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Old 02-24-13 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sinikl
To say nothing of chainline issues.
Which isn't exactly a big deal in the real world.
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Old 02-25-13 | 03:48 PM
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Yup, and it used an Sturmey Archer internally geared hub, not a derailleur as the OP is suggesting.
Yup, I almost bought one ~9 months ago but decided on a Bolt instead. Because Bolt.
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Old 02-25-13 | 03:50 PM
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You're using a Mash Bolt as a rear hub?

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Old 02-25-13 | 03:50 PM
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Yeah that wouldnt work. Use a kilo tt instead.
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Old 02-25-13 | 03:51 PM
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Seriously. Get with the program, man.

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Old 02-25-13 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagoSSSo you could have a 6 speed fixie if you used the SA fixed hub? would there be any problems?

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The complete loss of simplicity that comes with riding a fixed gear, by using two internal-gears hubs at the same time?
From experience, some....ok.... most of the simplicity of a fixed grear bike is lost when you set up a s3x hub. But you still maintian some of the very essential aspects of fixed gear riding such as: immediate speed & torque control, plus for an older or weaker rider it opens some additional terrian. Adding another IGH/BB to a s3x or asc hubbed bike would simply broaden the range of the bike. I'm thinking light touring, Rando. or just noodling in the mountians.

Since the Metropolis can shift under load, I'm wondering if it would be a good fit?
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Old 02-26-13 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Velognome
From experience, some....ok.... most of the simplicity of a fixed grear bike is lost when you set up a s3x hub. But you still maintian some of the very essential aspects of fixed gear riding such as: immediate speed & torque control, plus for an older or weaker rider it opens some additional terrian. Adding another IGH/BB to a s3x or asc hubbed bike would simply broaden the range of the bike. I'm thinking light touring, Rando. or just noodling in the mountians.

Since the Metropolis can shift under load, I'm wondering if it would be a good fit?

A Sturmey Archer Fixed 3 speed hub and a Schlumpf up front. 6 speeds with a wide range and almost no overlap.
Although expensive, it would be a really fun bike to ride.

Though not fixed gear, a two speed Kickback hub coupled with a Schlumpf would give four speeds with no cables, not even for brakes if you could live with just a rear coaster brake.
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Old 02-26-13 | 08:24 PM
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your low gear with that setup might eat the hub or crank internals.
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Old 02-26-13 | 09:12 PM
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Front wheel: Sturmey Archer X-FD 70mm Drum brake, 36h, 3x 2.0 straight gauge spokes, Sun CR18 rim, brass nipples.
Rear wheel: Sturmey Archer S3X 3sp fixed hub, 36h, 3x 2.0 straight gauge spokes, Sun CR18 rim, brass nipples.




OP looking for a S3X wheel...? I gots one for sale. Details in this thread.
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Old 02-26-13 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tombc
your low gear with that setup might eat the hub or crank internals.
Dude, that like totally harshed my buzz.
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Old 02-27-13 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hairnet
You also have to pedal backwards to shift gears.
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Ah, good to see that working, I've often wondered about it and hadn't twigged that the second lever was to lock the wheel. What keeps the chain tension right? Is the forward motion of the bike enough to do that?
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Old 02-27-13 | 12:43 AM
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Hey guys, I was wondering if there is any way I can set up my fixie so that I don't have to pedal all the time, and also so that I could change gears for going up and down hills and stuff? Oh, and is there any way for me to slow down without having to backpedal or skid or, like, hit things?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-27-13 | 01:18 AM
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If i never shift my 10 speed is it a fixie?
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Old 02-27-13 | 04:26 AM
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Ah, good to see that working, I've often wondered about it and hadn't twigged that the second lever was to lock the wheel. What keeps the chain tension right? Is the forward motion of the bike enough to do that?
the teeth visible on the dropout and matching ones on the axle keep the wheel from sliding around.
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Old 02-27-13 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tombc
your low gear with that setup might eat the hub or crank internals.
Nah, I think you'd be alright. Did the calculations using a 13T and the Patterson Metropolis on 700x28's and came out with.

92-69-58-57-43-36 inches

The s3x alone on a 46Tx16 runs something like 78-57-48

so it's a little higher and a little lower.....just more in between.
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Old 02-28-13 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tombc
the teeth visible on the dropout and matching ones on the axle keep the wheel from sliding around.
I'm in severe danger of getting into vintage bikes. Does that mean I have to get a tweed flat cap and grow a beard? I narrowly avoided that fate with the MG
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Old 02-28-13 | 10:28 AM
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I'm in severe danger of getting into vintage bikes. Does that mean I have to get a tweed flat cap and grow a beard? I narrowly avoided that fate with the MG
That danger is only real with Brit bikes. The Cambio is, of course, Italian, so if you get into that kind of vintage you'll have to wear goggles and eat sausage.

You don't want to know what's necessary for those of us into French bikes.
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Old 02-28-13 | 10:36 AM
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Old 02-28-13 | 08:44 PM
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Huh. So I didn't actually need to shave my nuts?
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Old 02-28-13 | 09:21 PM
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Huh. So I didn't actually need to shave my nuts?
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