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Difference between cheap and more expensive cogs?

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Old 03-18-13 | 04:39 PM
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Difference between cheap and more expensive cogs?

I recently purchased a Fantom Cross Uno to use as a winter commuter/around town beater. It came with a freewheel which is fun for tooling around and hopping curbs but the novelty is wearing off and I'm gonna set it up as a fixed gear soon. I'm thinking about getting this one https://www.amazon.com/Avenir-Fixed-G...r+cog+15+tooth The last cog I had was the 17 tooth version and I used it for two years through every season. I estimate that it had well over 2000 miles on it before the old bike got stolen, and that includes grinding on lots of salt and sand. The last time I examined it there were obvious signs of wear but not nearly as bad as I expected for the amount of abuse it got.

What makes something like a Dura Ace, All City, or Surly cog more than twice the price of the one I linked? Do they honestly hold up that much better or is it about branding? Weight is not a concern for me. If it's worth the extra money for the extended lifespan I'm all for spending a bit more but I just don't have the first hand experience with more expensive cogs to justify the difference.

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Old 03-18-13 | 05:57 PM
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Ooh, this is going to be good.

I have a feeling the answer revolves around material used, manufacturing tolerances and surface finish, but with BFSSFG you never know what you'll get (cat .gifs).
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Old 03-18-13 | 06:00 PM
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I've had both dirt cheap and good quality cogs.

I've heard expensive cogs make less noise. From high school physics I can guess that less noise is a result of less friction and slack in machining which would theoretically mean you have less energy lost in the drivetrain. Probably 0 possibility of measuring a performance change let alone feeling one when you're riding.

As far as holding up to wear goes, if your avenir lasted 2 years a fancy cog like the EAI gold medal ($89.00) would have to last over 25 years to have paid for itself in cheap cogs.

Bottom line: If money's burning a hole in your pocket and you've got nothing else to do, buy a fancy cog. If not, you'll probably be perfectly happy with another cheaper one.
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Old 03-18-13 | 06:30 PM
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They pretty much hit the nail on the head. I wouldn't go super cheapo unless I had to. Something like the EAI gold is unreasonable, but a $20 formula or $10 miche cog is where I would draw the line.
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Old 03-18-13 | 07:04 PM
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The main difference between a dirt cheap cog, and anything else is the dirt cheap cogs are stamped out of sheet metal rather than forged. A forged cog is stronger, has a better tooth profile and rounder. A really nice forged cog is round and has a better tooth profile than an average forged cog. If you need anything 16 or under get a Dura Ace cog, over that I am not the guy to ask.
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Old 03-18-13 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kayce
over that I am not the guy to ask.
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Old 03-18-13 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kayce
The main difference between a dirt cheap cog, and anything else is the dirt cheap cogs are stamped out of sheet metal rather than forged. A forged cog is stronger, has a better tooth profile and rounder.
This. ^^^

The threads on the cheap stamped cogs can also be sketchy and can damage the hub threads in the case of a poor fit. I've never bothered with the fancy-pants EAI Deluxe or Phil cogs; those black oxide treated Dura-Ace cogs work fine and give a better bang for your buck.
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Old 03-18-13 | 07:49 PM
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So in the end, pretty much if you need something 16t or under, go with DA.

Need something above that, go with EAI deluxe or the Soma cogs work perfectly well also.
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Old 03-18-13 | 08:07 PM
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Tooth profile plays a part as well. I'm a fan of Surly's style of deep, square teeth. They can be more forgiving of less-than-perfect chainline.
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Old 03-18-13 | 09:01 PM
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+1 my surly has not worn a bit while I've had to replace my chain a few times as it stretch to the point of ruining chainring
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