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Mumonkan 08-13-15 05:35 PM

where is everyone buying these paselas that are cracking and getting flats and deteriorating??

they are literally the most bulletproof tire ive owned. only recently after 5000 miles did mine get a sidewall cut from some sharp gravel at 25mph, lifetime punctures are probably close to 10, and i ride on some **** condition roads. id say at least 1/3 of those miles arent even on roads.

Huffandstuff 08-13-15 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 18073194)
It's inevitable to all natural gum walls unfortunately.

Yeah, this wasn't natural decay. They are maybe 1 week old, maybe two. Has a nasty gash and starting to bulge out.

franswa 08-13-15 08:36 PM

Never had sidewall issues with either of my sets of Paselas either.

franswa 08-13-15 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18072879)
Haha, no footage and I'm fine other than a sore leg. I tore my hood and bar tape though.

Everyone at work was like, "are you ok?!"
Me - "no, I ripped my bar tape!"


New bar tapes and hoods might be fun. For some reason I like wrapping bars, even though it brings out the 20% OCD in me.

SpeshulEd 08-13-15 08:53 PM

I actually have new bar tape ready to go, was just holding out until this wore out a bit more. I already ordered hoods today. Now I just need to figure out if I can wrap the bars and do the hoods later...the hole in the hood doesn't bother me much but the tape looks horrible.

Leukybear 08-13-15 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 18073240)
where is everyone buying these paselas that are cracking and getting flats and deteriorating??

they are literally the most bulletproof tire ive owned. only recently after 5000 miles did mine get a sidewall cut from some sharp gravel at 25mph, lifetime punctures are probably close to 10, and i ride on some **** condition roads. id say at least 1/3 of those miles arent even on roads.

Funny that you ask, but I live in the backyard of a certain fellow here :lol:

They ride great, the best bang for the buck tire out there, and look great. I too haven't flatted with paselas before, partly because they had their twilight days stolen from them?

I have been having problems with them nevertheless; which I shared around in this thread a bunch of pages before.

http://i.imgur.com/x5xuYtM.jpg
It got as bad as these casing defects spread all around the tire.

I had another picture that I shared here of one where the sidewall dried out and started separating along with the casing from the bead.

They don't age gracefully under everyday commuting. Then again, we wouldn't want panaracer to go out of business! #lightbulbtheory


I have another set on my commuter now and so far, aside from the sidewalls cracking due to UV (inevitable even with Pedro's spray on bike lust ala spray on wax as suggested scrod), so good.

Maybe the folding versions are better.... but that pushes this economical tire over the edge a bit.

Muffin Man 08-13-15 10:10 PM

Climbed a lot, got dropped really quick, took a couple pics, and then went to work. Good day.

I'm digging the antares too

Sixty Fiver 08-13-15 10:42 PM

Today I drove for 9 hours to wrap up our vacation... will say it is good to be home after three weeks of sun, food, drink, sand, and friends.

Will need a rest now.

Mumonkan 08-14-15 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 18073829)
:lol:

i remember that post

mine get those little lines on the sidewalls but it doesnt seem to effect the integrity of the tire, since it happened about 2000 miles ago.

i also dont really leave my bikes parked outside for long periods in the sun either so maybe that has something to do with it

the sidewall cut that i got on the tire was about 1/4" long, i didnt boot it and pumped it back up. its still sitting in my wheel pile at pressure, not bulging or growing in size

im willing to bet that i would run out of meat on the tread before the tires started to actually fall apart on me

edit, an episode of the wire is apparently going down on the island

jlafitte 08-14-15 08:01 AM

I've heard it said that sidewall cracks are only cosmetic, it's the underlying threads that maintain the structural integrity of the tire.

Leukybear 08-14-15 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 18074261)
i also dont really leave my bikes parked outside for long periods in the sun either so maybe that has something to do with it

This was the perplexing part for me. They were on my paddywagon which I commute with the vast majority of the time.
However between the garage at home and my personal office, it only gets exposed to the sun while I'm riding it.

I hadn't learned about Pedro's bike lust wax at that time although most tires should do fine without it; from the factory.

Nagrom_ 08-14-15 08:49 AM

Went to Pebble Beach yesterday.

Played leapfrog with a brand new 911 turbo s for pretty much the entire drive from the east bay. That was pretty fun.

TenSpeedV2 08-14-15 09:12 AM

Broke my saddle rail water bottle mount while messing with taking it on and off so much. I have a second different mount, but it will not fit with the aero post. To anyone considering riding a dedicated track frame on the street - you may want to rethink this. Simple things such as a water bottle for a nice long casual ride? You will need to come up with an alternative.

hockeyteeth 08-14-15 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Nagrom_ (Post 18074806)
Went to Pebble Beach yesterday.

Played leapfrog with a brand new 911 turbo s for pretty much the entire drive from the east bay. That was pretty fun.

Did you tune your Tracker? Seriously, though. Seeing how recklessly rich morons drive their sports cars around on twisting canyon roads makes me think twice about ever riding a bike on those scenic roads.

hairnet 08-14-15 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 18074261)
i remember that post

mine get those little lines on the sidewalls but it doesnt seem to effect the integrity of the tire, since it happened about 2000 miles ago.

i also dont really leave my bikes parked outside for long periods in the sun either so maybe that has something to do with it

the sidewall cut that i got on the tire was about 1/4" long, i didnt boot it and pumped it back up. its still sitting in my wheel pile at pressure, not bulging or growing in size

im willing to bet that i would run out of meat on the tread before the tires started to actually fall apart on me

You can take a piece of denim or cut out a piece from an inner tube box to use as a reinforcing boot. I rode my last rear Pasela to its end while booted with a large gash. As much as I love these tires for their ride and puncture resistance, they have not been bullet proof. The sidewalls are too damn delicate. Just like you, I commuted and off-roaded on them.

JohnDThompson 08-14-15 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18074853)
Broke my saddle rail water bottle mount while messing with taking it on and off so much. I have a second different mount, but it will not fit with the aero post. To anyone considering riding a dedicated track frame on the street - you may want to rethink this. Simple things such as a water bottle for a nice long casual ride? You will need to come up with an alternative.

Why do you need to repeatedly remove and re-install the bottle mount?

TenSpeedV2 08-14-15 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 18075384)
Why do you need to remove the bottle mount?

Kept swapping saddles trying to find something I liked.

JohnDThompson 08-14-15 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18075387)
Kept swapping saddles trying to find something I liked.

Maybe leave it off until you've found a saddle you can live with.

cali_axela 08-14-15 02:46 PM

Which seat bottle mount do you have? I recently got this really simple one for my fixed gear for taking on longer rides, and am digging it.

SpeshulEd 08-14-15 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18074853)
Broke my saddle rail water bottle mount while messing with taking it on and off so much. I have a second different mount, but it will not fit with the aero post. To anyone considering riding a dedicated track frame on the street - you may want to rethink this. Simple things such as a water bottle for a nice long casual ride? You will need to come up with an alternative.

Skip the seat mount and get one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Quick...bxgy_468_img_y

cali_axela 08-14-15 02:49 PM

^ I tried one of those and with a full 20oz bottle it would slide out of position on trails, didn't work for me.

SpeshulEd 08-14-15 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by cali_axela (Post 18075856)
^ I tried one of those and with a full 20oz bottle it would slide out of position on trails, didn't work for me.

Mine will move around if I don't have the velcro tight. Just have to really pull when I first put it on.

TejanoTrackie 08-14-15 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18075892)
Mine will move around if I don't have the velcro tight. Just have to really pull when I first put it on.

The soft rubber base tends to compress over time, such that I have to periodically retighten mine. Also, unless you have a really fat downtube, you have to trim the excess length of the velcro strap, so that it sits flush and tucked in.

Mumonkan 08-14-15 03:20 PM

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TMonk 08-14-15 03:35 PM

Crazy ride last night.

I did a local shop ride last night to be social, and do something different. It was just a few of us; the leader (a shop employee) and some college kid were pretty fast, so it was fun.

Toward the end we are coming down Kearny Villa, a flat, fast, long and open road with a tailwind. Three of us are pacelining at ~30mph. While I'm on the front, taking a slightly extended pull, we come up on some big rocks in the bike lane, like softball-sized. By the time I had noticed them, I was already going through, fortunately I didn't hit any. Other two are tight on my wheel.

The third rider (shop employee, ride leader) hit one and went down. After a couple min. of laying down and calming down a bit, it was clear he had a broken collarbone - swelling, redness, and a clear protrusion from a displaced bone. Fortunately there wasn't significant damage to his bike or his body otherwise.

I feel kinda bad that I didn't notice them sooner, but sometimes they (road obstacles) just come up on ya. The whole time we had been pointing out obstacles and riding courteously. I don't feel personally responsible or guilty at all, just bad for the guy


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