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TimothyH 03-07-17 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by johnnytheboy (Post 19425296)
i went to a wedding in austin this past weekend....most ceremonies i've been to are so lame. also, fairly religious. reading a bible verse to your future wife to prove your love to her seems stupid to me. it always just solidifies my anti-religion point of view.


Weddings don't "prove your love" to your spouse. Daily self-sacrifice proves your love to your spouse. Putting your spouses needs and wants before your own on a daily basis proves your love. Proving your love is not what a wedding is for.

When performed in the Church before God, a wedding is a covenant between man, woman and God. Covenants form family bonds and last forever, until one member of the covenant dies. In this context a wedding forms an inseperable, familial bond. That is what a sacramental wedding in a Church is for.

When you get married at the beach or in a hall you don't have a sacrament or a covenant but you have a promise. When you get married in a civil ceremony you have a legal contract. In these contexts, promises and contracts are what weddings are for.

I realize that not all agree but for some, getting married in a Church where a sacramental bond between man, woman and God is formed is very important. Whether the service is boring or seems lame or not has zero bearing fact that the bond is established, nor does it diminish the importance of what takes place.

Proving your love happens after the wedding, when it is 36° and raining, you are tired after work, but you let your wife stay home and you go out to get milk.


-Tim-

EpicSchwinn 03-07-17 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19425458)
Weddings don't "prove your love" to your spouse. Daily self-sacrifice proves your love to your spouse. Putting your spouses needs and wants before your own on a daily basis proves your love. Proving your love is not what a wedding is for.

When performed in the Church before God, a wedding is a covenant between man, woman and God. Covenants form family bonds and last forever, until one member of the covenant dies. In this context a wedding forms an inseperable, familial bond. That is what a sacramental wedding in a Church is for.

When you get married at the beach or in a hall you don't have a sacrament or a covenant but you have a promise. When you get married in a civil ceremony you have a legal contract. In these contexts, promises and contracts are what weddings are for.

I realize that not all agree but for some, getting married in a Church where a sacramental bond between man, woman and God is formed is very important. Whether the service is boring or seems lame or not has zero bearing fact that the bond is established, nor does it diminish the importance of what takes place.

Proving your love happens after the wedding, when it is 36° and raining, you are tired after work, but you let your wife stay home and you go out to get milk.


-Tim-

Well said. Throughout the Bible there were lots of covenants made far from temples or church buildings. If the bride and groom are believers I think you could still have an equally meaningful service in a venue other than a church.

50voltphantom 03-07-17 03:45 PM

Daydreaming
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3781/3...0691c6b7_b.jpg

scoho 03-08-17 08:13 AM

Today I restrained myself from engaging in religious/cultural debate on the internetz. :rolleyes:

Mumonkan 03-08-17 08:19 AM

protip: avoid mentioning helmets, guns, religion, politics, & disc brakes on this forum at all costs

TMonk 03-08-17 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 19426958)
protip: avoid mentioning helmets, guns, religion, politics, & disc brakes on this forum at all costs

probably a good idea.

Carcosa 03-08-17 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 19426958)
protip: avoid mentioning helmets, guns, religion, politics, & disc brakes on this forum at all costs

You forgot gumwalls...

TimothyH 03-08-17 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 19426958)
protip: avoid mentioning helmets, guns, religion, politics, & disc brakes on this forum at all costs

Protip: Avoid stereotyping entire religions and ethnicities.

The idea that Mexican non-Catholics are somehow culturally and religiously never greedy or self-serving and that Italian Catholics are demonstrates, at best, a very narrow exposure to either group.


-Tim-

TenSpeedV2 03-08-17 10:22 AM

I got married in 2005 in a non denominational chapel on the campus here. It was by a justice of the peace. The ceremony was entirely non religious as neither one of us were religious. We chose it because of how old it is, with non religious stained glass windows, cobblestone floor, old wooden pews, and the fact that both of our families had ties to the university.

The reception was over priced, the food was terrible, the venue was a typical cheesy ball room at a golf course. If I decide to get married again, it will be on the beach, with some close friends and family, a justice of the peace, and that is it. Maybe grill out some burgers and brats, maybe dinner at an ocean side restaurant, but never again will that much money be dumped into a reception.

Will gladly avoid the whole religion topic, as everyone has their own personal feelings on it and its importance.

SquidPuppet 03-08-17 10:47 AM

Must........not............comment........

Mumonkan 03-08-17 11:12 AM

case in point.

i compared two weddings i had attended to weddings i previously attended, and off we go on a magic carpet ride

http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.co...609ae75870.gif

scoho 03-08-17 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 19427220)
non religious stained glass windows

This made me smile :D



Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 19427314)
Must........not............comment........

Be strong, friend!

SquidPuppet 03-08-17 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by scoho (Post 19427397)
Be strong, friend!

After seeing Mumonkam's magic carpet GIF I can feel myself getting weaker and weaker. :innocent:

scoho 03-08-17 11:39 AM

Ha, it had the opposite effect on me! Made me smile, and calm. :thumb:

SCK 03-08-17 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Mumonkan (Post 19426958)
protip: avoid mentioning helmets, guns, religion, politics, & disc brakes on this forum at all costs

Can we just combine them into a single sentence to increase the overall chance of some severe ideological debate? Also don't mention cars, especially the kind that have big engines and a bunch of horsepower.

Mumonkan 03-08-17 12:21 PM

lets just not talk about anything and delete the forum, its the only way to keep the peace

TejanoTrackie 03-08-17 12:31 PM

Who wants peace ? So boring.

johnnytheboy 03-08-17 01:09 PM

banned.

SevenOneEight 03-08-17 01:13 PM

Well not to break up the party but today my new frame arrived!
First fixed gear/track bike in 17 years. Now the hard part is going to be waiting the next week or so for the components to arrive.

SquidPuppet 03-08-17 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by scoho (Post 19427477)
Ha, it had the opposite effect on me! Made me smile, and calm. :thumb:


I liked it too, that's why it tempted me to open my big mouth.

motrheadsroadie 03-08-17 01:35 PM

marriage is not punk.

JohnDThompson 03-08-17 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by johnnytheboy (Post 19427782)
nope

Pictures, or it didn't happen…

50voltphantom 03-08-17 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by SevenOneEight (Post 19427778)
Well not to break up the party but today my new frame arrived!
First fixed gear/track bike in 17 years. Now the hard part is going to be waiting the next week or so for the components to arrive.

My frame won't arrive until the middle of May. I might not survive the wait.

seau grateau 03-08-17 04:09 PM

Religion is fun. Hail Seitan.

veganbikes 03-08-17 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 19428183)
Religion is fun. Hail Seitan.

Seitan is delicious. With my homemade BBQ sauce it makes it even better. Or make hot wings out of it (homemade hot sauce anyone?)


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