Vertical Dropout Conversion
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Vertical Dropout Conversion
Some of you may have seen my new bike. It's a Fuji Finest-Le road bike. I'm converting it to a fixed but it has vertical dropouts. Now, the chain has some slack and I'm using a 1/8 chain. I have looked up the chart Sheldon Brown recommended. Now, a different cog won't help so should I try a 1/2 link chain or grind the dropout by 1-1&1/2 cm?
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Some of you may have seen my new bike. It's a Fuji Finest-Le road bike. I'm converting it to a fixed but it has vertical dropouts. Now, the chain has some slack and I'm using a 1/8 chain. I have looked up the chart Sheldon Brown recommended. Now, a different cog won't help so should I try a 1/2 link chain or grind the dropout by 1-1&1/2 cm?
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Well I knew about te eccentric hub but I don't want to spend that much. And it's a newer Fuji finest but I think that's going to bet only option to grind it.
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Your cog is slipping.
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Another thing to consider is that it's a road frame with a lower bottom bracket than a track frame and undoubtedly has longer cranks as well. Since you can't coast through turns on a fixed gear the way you can with a freewheel, you run the risk of pedal strike with the pavement, which can cause an accident. I used to ride road frame conversions to fixed and on a few occasions went down in turns because I forgot that I couldn't coast and went too fast into the turn. Now all of my fixed gear bikes are based on track frames and I use short 165mm cranks. Since your frame is already unsuitable due to the vertical dropouts and you want to grind away a lot of metal, I would recommend just finding a cheap track bike and using that instead. My 2 centavos.
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Another thing to consider is that it's a road frame with a lower bottom bracket than a track frame and undoubtedly has longer cranks as well. Since you can't coast through turns on a fixed gear the way you can with a freewheel, you run the risk of pedal strike with the pavement, which can cause an accident. I used to ride road frame conversions to fixed and on a few occasions went down in turns because I forgot that I couldn't coast and went too fast into the turn. Now all of my fixed gear bikes are based on track frames and I use short 165mm cranks. Since your frame is already unsuitable due to the vertical dropouts and you want to grind away a lot of metal, I would recommend just finding a cheap track bike and using that instead. My 2 centavos.
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SS with a chain tensioner is an option. Or go really Sheldon style weird by grinding off the little bit of protruding axle from the hub and using a burly steel closed cam skewer. Or magic ratio plus half link chain. The point is that this may be more trouble than it is worth and the frame wasn't really such a great deal with a fixed gear in mind.
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Well, here's the update. I did a little messing around with the wheel position and I was able to fit the chain with a proper amount of tension and a proper amount of swearing! But, yes there's always a but, i was putting on the clip for the masterlink when it shot off into the grass. Yup, well atleast I got the chain on.
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Some of you may have seen my new bike. It's a Fuji Finest-Le road bike. I'm converting it to a fixed but it has vertical dropouts. Now, the chain has some slack and I'm using a 1/8 chain. I have looked up the chart Sheldon Brown recommended. Now, a different cog won't help so should I try a 1/2 link chain or grind the dropout by 1-1&1/2 cm?
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Your cog is slipping.
Well, here's the update. I did a little messing around with the wheel position and I was able to fit the chain with a proper amount of tension and a proper amount of swearing! But, yes there's always a but, i was putting on the clip for the masterlink when it shot off into the grass. Yup, well atleast I got the chain on.
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I'm heading to the bike store to pick up a half link and new master link. If they don't work out its going to be on Craigslist.
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I did a magic gear FG once. It was an interesting exercise and learning experience but in the end it was far more trouble than it was worth.
There are plenty of inexpensive frames out there with track ends or horizontal dropouts. Save yourself the headache.
There are plenty of inexpensive frames out there with track ends or horizontal dropouts. Save yourself the headache.
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I still have my old frame with horizontal track drops but I really needed a new one. And I'm not just ready to give up yet. I'm determined to get this bike into a proper fixed gear, I think it's worth the hastle. I guess it's the can do attitude my dad (a.k.a Macgyver) worked into me.
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I still have my old frame with horizontal track drops but I really needed a new one. And I'm not just ready to give up yet. I'm determined to get this bike into a proper fixed gear, I think it's worth the hastle. I guess it's the can do attitude my dad (a.k.a Macgyver) worked into me.
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get an eccentric hub. The hanger is going to stick out like a sore thumb and I'd be worried about pedal strike. I've avoided buying track bikes because there was too much BB drop, like on a road bike's.
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I'm not sure where the negativity is coming from - if you like the frame, go for it.
The vertical dropouts are a problem. My suggestion is to go SS with a tensioner to start with. This will help you sort her out in that role, plus give you time to consider taking her to fixed gear. If you go to fg, the smart move is an Eno hub or one of the other eccentric offerings out there - they're pricey which is why I'm suggesting SS first.
Nothing wrong with having a nice fixed gear bike, even an expensive one if you can afford it and it's suitable for the role you're asking of it.
The vertical dropouts are a problem. My suggestion is to go SS with a tensioner to start with. This will help you sort her out in that role, plus give you time to consider taking her to fixed gear. If you go to fg, the smart move is an Eno hub or one of the other eccentric offerings out there - they're pricey which is why I'm suggesting SS first.
Nothing wrong with having a nice fixed gear bike, even an expensive one if you can afford it and it's suitable for the role you're asking of it.