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TejanoTrackie 10-23-15 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by IAmSam (Post 18264024)
Blanket statements are seldom 100% correct...like most makers Masi does bulk of its production in Asia nowadays, but their higher end bikes are far from "cheap Chinajunk" and I'm pretty sure some are even made in Italy

Actually...Masi in the US is owned by Haro ;) but Alberto Masi does still make hand-made steel frames in Milan, IT

Agreed. My blanket statement is only 99.9% correct. Exactly how many handmade Masis have you seen on CL/eBay ? Are you suggesting that the Masi shown in post 1015 above is anything other than low quality Asia stuff ?

Regulatori 10-23-15 09:14 AM

Yep. It's like trying to compare a Cinelli Gazzetta to a SuperCorsa. The Supercorsa is probably 5% (or less) of their steel frame track bike frame sales. A majority of their bikes are made in China (Gazzetta, "Work model", etc...)

velofinds 10-23-15 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by IAmSam (Post 18264024)
Blanket statements are seldom 100% correct...like most makers Masi does bulk of its production in Asia nowadays, but their higher end bikes are far from "cheap Chinajunk"

Ah, but the bike in question is most decidedly not one of their higher end models:


Originally Posted by miyatalover (Post 18262629)


velofinds 10-23-15 11:39 AM

I don't know much about these bikes (or love them, for that matter), but this one looks pretty cool. Attractive price, if I'm not mistaken...

Bring your own saddle (and seatpost).

http://images.craigslist.org/00c0c_j...g3_600x450.jpg
Custom Land Shark Track Bike Fixie 54

IAmSam 10-23-15 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 18264429)
Agreed. My blanket statement is only 99.9% correct. Exactly how many handmade Masis have you seen on CL/eBay ? Are you suggesting that the Masi shown in post 1015 above is anything other than low quality Asia stuff ? Oh, and btw just to nitpick, it's Alberto Masi's son, not the original Alberto Masi who is building frames now, although he may be just as competent as his father.

You know...just because a bike is not hand-made does not automatically make it "cheap Chinajunk" and I never mentioned the particular bike in question.

And not to nitpick...but it was Faliero who founded and grew Masi - Alberto is his son and for decades his workshop has been and in fact still is hand-building Italian Masis.

But we seem to be forgetting that during much of Masi's "good times" they were actually made in California, where some of the best American custom frame-builders got their starts, and where the family lost use of their name in the US...


Originally Posted by Regulatori (Post 18264473)
Yep. It's like trying to compare a Cinelli Gazzetta to a SuperCorsa. The Supercorsa is probably 5% (or less) of their steel frame track bike frame sales. A majority of their bikes are made in China (Gazzetta, "Work model", etc...)

Does that mean any Cinelli made in Asia is "cheap Chinajunk?"


Originally Posted by leegf (Post 18264712)
Ah, but the bike in question is most decidedly not one of their higher end models:

Does that mean that every asian Masi is "cheap Chinajunk?"


Maybe you guys should to go back to shilling all those suh-weet Aventons & Kilos ;)

monsterkidz 10-23-15 01:28 PM

That MASI for 250 is a decent price. Modern MASI has some good offerings. The Coltello was a great frame not sure if it is still available or not.

TimothyH 10-23-15 02:25 PM

Starting to smell like 33 in here.

SpeshulEd 10-23-15 02:50 PM

$400 for the landshark doesn't seem like a bad deal.

Mumonkan 10-23-15 03:56 PM

there was a beat up landshark track at the jumble last year, they wanted 400 for just the frame

velofinds 10-23-15 07:32 PM

Low-end Falcon Merckx I believe, but I think it'd make a solid basis for a townie build.

Not sure if [MENTION=180928]Leukybear[/MENTION] is interested -- believe this is in his neck of the woods.

http://images.craigslist.org/00J0J_g...r7_600x450.jpg
Eddy Merckx easy rider

velofinds 10-23-15 08:09 PM

Alright, who wants this?

http://images.craigslist.org/00r0r_6...v0_600x450.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/00m0m_j...HN_600x450.jpg

Colnago vintage MTB

Leukybear 10-23-15 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by leegf (Post 18266326)
Not sure if [MENTION=180928]Leukybear[/MENTION] is interested -- believe this is in his neck of the woods.

Thanks for the thought! :)

SpeshulEd 10-23-15 08:43 PM

That Colnago!!!

LesterOfPuppets 10-23-15 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18266436)
That Colnago!!!

It's a pretty rad frame/fork. Too bad about the components, though.

SpeshulEd 10-23-15 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 18266438)
It's a pretty rad frame/fork. Too bad about the components, though.

Yeah, I'd try to barter down and rip all those off and start over.

Regulatori 10-24-15 02:44 AM

I have Klein love so that Colnago doesn't make me flinch. I saw the paint job and expected an early 90's Klein Rascal...not a Colnago.

seau grateau 10-24-15 05:03 AM

Kleins have better paintjobs.

IAmSam 10-24-15 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 18265488)
Starting to smell like 33 in here.

Which subforum is that?


Long as I'm here...let's try this on for size ;)

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pNcAAO...Mi/s-l1600.jpg

seau grateau 10-24-15 05:11 AM

Master link ruins it.

thedapperest 10-25-15 06:18 PM

Wheeew. I was window shopping for NJS frames my size and I think I need this
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/022...G?v=1445641228
MAKINO // Black with Pink Decals // 59cm | NJS EXPORT

Leukybear 10-25-15 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by thedapperest (Post 18269889)
Wheeew. I was window shopping for NJS frames my size and I think I need this

At the end of the day, you're still paying $800+shipping from japan for a frameset that has been mercilessly thrashed and bashed on by a professional racer.

velofinds 10-25-15 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 18270088)
At the end of the day, you're still paying $800+shipping from japan for a frameset that has been mercilessly thrashed and bashed on by a professional racer.

How does this manifest itself? Is the integrity of the frame and/or the handling/ride quality compromised? Serious question.

thedapperest 10-26-15 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 18270088)
At the end of the day, you're still paying $800+shipping from japan for a frameset that has been mercilessly thrashed and bashed on by a professional racer.

Did you actually read the description? Near perfect condition. No structural damage, only paint chips. Considering it comes with BB and headset I think $907 w/shipping is a bit OP but nothing too insane.

hohum 10-26-15 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by thedapperest (Post 18271406)
Did you actually read the description? Near perfect condition. No structural damage, only paint chips.

How long as the pain job been chipped? Is it chipped down to bare metal? Has it seen wet weather riding (hint: velodromes can be outside too).

If you're going to spend 800 bucks on a frame get something new.

thedapperest 10-26-15 11:28 AM

Chips are just on the top level of paint Obviously it doesn't mention riding conditions but I do know NJS BBs don't take too kindly to wet weather. If I had the money I might run it. Of course for a couple hundred more I could snag an entire bike. With an NJS frame


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