I'm a freak now...
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I'm a freak now...
...with nowhere to hang but with the commuters. You see I was spinning the 42/16 on my Crosscheck out way too often, but knew I wouldn't be able to mash anything bigger up the hills on my commute. So I swapped the 42 and matching bash ring for 48 and 38 tooth chainrings, then routed the chain through a Paul 'Melvin' tensioner. Of course having even two speeds is like being a little bit pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. So I figued the damage was done and I might as well mount an old front derailleur and thumb shifter I found in the parts bin at the LBS. I've got no pride anymore. And it's not as if shifting the chain by hand on the fly (and risking my digits in the process) is going to get me an ounce of respect from either the Fixie or Road gangs. The thing actually works pretty well... for a feak. I'll go now.
DanO
DanO
#2
Originally Posted by DanO220
...with nowhere to hang but with the commuters. You see I was spinning the 42/16 on my Crosscheck out way too often, but knew I wouldn't be able to mash anything bigger up the hills on my commute. So I swapped the 42 and matching bash ring for 48 and 38 tooth chainrings, then routed the chain through a Paul 'Melvin' tensioner. Of course having even two speeds is like being a little bit pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. So I figued the damage was done and I might as well mount an old front derailleur and thumb shifter I found in the parts bin at the LBS. I've got no pride anymore. And it's not as if shifting the chain by hand on the fly (and risking my digits in the process) is going to get me an ounce of respect from either the Fixie or Road gangs. The thing actually works pretty well... for a feak. I'll go now.
DanO
DanO
#3
Well if you could hand derail at speed that'd get you some cred in my book, but then I'm a guy with only 4 fingers on his left hand, so take that for what it's worth.
Oh yeah, if you went with an old Campy style QR shifter, that'd be pretty hot too.
Oh yeah, if you went with an old Campy style QR shifter, that'd be pretty hot too.
#4
tell the others to go fly a kite and do exactly as you please with out so much as an ounce of shame or regret. it sounds like a rather interesting setup to me. i'd like to have a look if you've any pictures.
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Agreed. Bragging is not allowed unless you provide pics. 
It does sound like a good setup. What does the Melvin do when you put backpressure on the pedals?

It does sound like a good setup. What does the Melvin do when you put backpressure on the pedals?
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Originally Posted by auk
Agreed. Bragging is not allowed unless you provide pics. 
It does sound like a good setup. What does the Melvin do when you put backpressure on the pedals?

It does sound like a good setup. What does the Melvin do when you put backpressure on the pedals?
The bike was never a true blue fixed, but rather a single speed roadie running a SS MTB hub. So there are no back pedaling issues as far as the Melvin is concerned.
Here's a pic of the single speed set-up, which I can still bolt on in a few minutes.
DanO
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Very nice. I remember seeing that pic somewhere on the boards and thinking then that it was a nice looking build. How do you like the Winwood fork?
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Originally Posted by auk
Very nice. I remember seeing that pic somewhere on the boards and thinking then that it was a nice looking build. How do you like the Winwood fork?
It was my first experience with a carbon fork (or anything else carbon, for that matter) so at first I approached itwith caution, even though it's touted as a cyclocross component. Now I think nothing of dropping it off curbs and bunnyhopping railroad tracks. I didn't swap it out for the steel fork. It was an upgrade from the get go. So I can't really say whether or not the ride is appreciably smoother. But it's definately reliable.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
You know what would be really cool? If you could rig up some sort of system with different cogs in back. If you could change them on the fly, I bet you'd really be on to something.
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Originally Posted by DanO220
What do you think about this? I could run a fixed cog on either side of the hub in back, with chains on BOTH sides, running to different size chainrings mounted on dual sided cranks up front. Then all I need to figure out is how to engage/disengage the front chainrings - some sort of dual one way clutch arrangement perhaps - and viola! a double mirrored fixed gear!
DanO
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My brain now hurts. <paging Mr. Goldberg>
#11
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Well if you could hand derail at speed that'd get you some cred in my book, but then I'm a guy with only 4 fingers on his left hand, so take that for what it's worth.
Oh yeah, if you went with an old Campy style QR shifter, that'd be pretty hot too.
Oh yeah, if you went with an old Campy style QR shifter, that'd be pretty hot too.
what happen to your 5th digit?
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The Chain Cleaning + Cog Gambit?
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#14
It's a great party story. Hell, it's actually one that OTHER people start to tell for me. Those are alway the best, when you can talk about yourself without looking like a conceited *******.
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Originally Posted by DanO220
What do you think about this? I could run a fixed cog on either side of the hub in back, with chains on BOTH sides, running to different size chainrings mounted on dual sided cranks up front. Then all I need to figure out is how to engage/disengage the front chainrings - some sort of dual one way clutch arrangement perhaps - and viola! a double mirrored fixed gear!
DanO
DanO
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Originally Posted by chrisgraham81
what happen to your 5th digit?
Trevor, you should really make one of those pics your avatar. I especially like the one with the lone digit lying on the floor. It looks like something out of a B horror movie.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
You know what would be really cool? If you could rig up some sort of system with different cogs in back. If you could change them on the fly, I bet you'd really be on to something.
#19
Yup, that's the Campy QR shifter I was talking about.
In practice this could also be mated with a similar style derailleur up front.
The funny thing is that this system was introduced in the 30s or 40s long after reliable cable operated ders were available.
In practice this could also be mated with a similar style derailleur up front.
The funny thing is that this system was introduced in the 30s or 40s long after reliable cable operated ders were available.
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Originally Posted by ryan_c
One lever to open the quick release, one to move the chain over. All done while in motion.
#22
I read someone's first-hand account of a club ride or something to that effect next to someone on these.
He said it was a real trip. Dude was open the QR on the wheel, basically lightly pedal while flipping the der lever, the wheel would ratchet back in the dropouts, and then he'd close it up. Real loosey goosey stuff.
He said it was a real trip. Dude was open the QR on the wheel, basically lightly pedal while flipping the der lever, the wheel would ratchet back in the dropouts, and then he'd close it up. Real loosey goosey stuff.





