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Old 03-18-15, 07:36 AM
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Basic Toolkit

I am looking to put together a basic bike toolkit. I just bought my first road bike a Crew District and need a few tools to one assemble it and do maintenance.

To start I was thinking of getting a folding hex set and a pedal wrench. I have snap on screwdrivers and metric open end box end wrenches from my auto toolset but was also eyeballing the Nashbar essential tool kit.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

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edit: apologies i read too fast

a 3 way hex tool is all youre likely to need for allens
freewheel,lockring,chainwhip,bb, and chain tools are the only bike specific youll need
anything else you can use from your auto tools, if you hamfist tools you might want a torque wrench

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The chainwhip in the Nashbar Essential Tool Kit is 3/32 which may not be appropriate depending on what you have for a cog. It also doesn't have a lockring tool. Do you know what bottom bracket and crank you are using? The bottom bracket and crank remover won't help you if you are using a GXP bottom bracket/crank for instance. The cone wrench set is not likely to be of much use for this bike nor the casette lockring tool. If you are going singlespeed you will need a freewheel remover if you want to change it. In short, I don't think this would be a very good buy.
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Instead of the kit I am looking at starting with

Park Pedal Wrench
Park Hex folding set (3mm-10mm)
Portland Design 3wrencho

Would that get me through assembling the bike and bike things for now then when I need tools buy them?
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Would that get me through assembling the bike and bike things for now then when I need tools buy them?
Not, knowing what state the bike is going to be in before you assemble it, probably not. Do you know what crank and bottom bracket you are using? Are they installed on the bike? Is the cog/freewheel installed on the wheel? At the very least you should by some tire irons. I wouldn't want to try to just use the 3wrencho by itself as a tire iron.
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I dont, it is one of those I bought online complete things from city grounds Crew Bike Co. District Fixed Gear Bike Built By CG | City Grounds
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I dont, it is one of those I bought online complete things from city grounds Crew Bike Co. District Fixed Gear Bike Built By CG | City Grounds
Well, you won't have to install the bottom bracket or cranks, but you will have to true up the wheels and probably cut the brake cables. You are probably better off just paying a local bike shop to assemble, adjust and tighten stuff instead of buying a bunch of specialized tools. What you really need to get is a good floor pump with a built-in pressure gauge, and a tire repair kit (spare tube, tire irons, inflator,15mm wrench) to take on rides.
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I can tighten things and cut the cables no problem. I have general wrenches and cutters.

I called my local bike shop and they want $80 to assemble the bike. I know I am mechanically inclined enough that I can assemble it safely. I may have to watch a youtube video on truing up a wheel.
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Well, $80 seems excessive, so i can see why you wouldn't want to use that shop. To true up a wheel properly you need a truing stand and of course a spoke wrench.
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It sounds to me like you have the basics already covered. Just buy new, more specific, tools as the need arises. After all, we could sit here all day and come up with a list a mile long as to what the "basic" tools to have should be. For example, I consider a pedal wrench to be a "basic" tool, while someone else would say, it's over kill, and you can get away with using a 15mm box end wrench. So, again, just buy what you need as the need arises.

However, having said all that, it might not be a bad idea to get a tire pump.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
To true up a wheel properly you need a truing stand and of course a spoke wrench.
Or just do this:
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I can tighten things and cut the cables no problem. I have general wrenches and cutters.
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Cutters - you might be surprised that the cutters don't cut it. I use a dremel and thin grinding wheel but you can also get a special cable-cutter.
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I like to have cone wrenches. If you don't have them and know how to use them you might destroy your wheel without knowing it is happening.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
To true up a wheel properly you need a truing stand and of course a spoke wrench.


Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
Or just do this:
This is what I was talking about...

Just get what you need when you need it.
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Or just do this:
The problem with that setup is that you can't tell if the rim is centered on the hub.
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The problem with that setup is that you can't tell if the rim is centered on the hub.
I always assumed that if my frame were straight that I could pretty reliably use the ruler for centering. You can always flip the wheel around as well. I put paper clips on the ruler as well. Maybe I'm not understanding you.
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Truing a wheel is so not a big deal.
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Truing a wheel is so not a big deal.
+1 (a million times over).

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Well, $80 seems excessive, so i can see why you wouldn't want to use that shop. To true up a wheel properly you need a truing stand and of course a spoke wrench.
i true my wheels with the wheels on the bike and just use the brakepads or zipties as guides. i think hell be fine with just a spokewrench since hes not building the whole wheel

its not rocketsurgery
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i true my wheels with the wheels on the bike and just use the brakepads or zipties as guides. i think hell be fine with just a spokewrench since hes not building the whole wheel

its not rocketsurgery
How do you know your wheels are centered, or don't you care ?
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I always assumed that if my frame were straight that I could pretty reliably use the ruler for centering. You can always flip the wheel around as well. I put paper clips on the ruler as well. Maybe I'm not understanding you.
Your frame is not a good centering tool. The seatstays are not perfectly centered on the frame nor are the dropouts. You are lucky if you get within 3mm perfect alignment between the seat stays near the brake bridge and the dropouts. Every time you remove and replace the rear wheel to reverse it, you will have to adjust it exactly the same in order to assess the rim centering on the hub. Basically, you will just be chasing your tail and will never center it properly. I use a wheel centering (dishing) tool to check rim centering, and always do this first before I attempt to check and adjust lateral and radial runout. Then, there is the issue of properly tensioning and stressing the wheel to keep it from constantly getting out of true.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
How do you know your wheels are centered, or don't you care ?
cuz by "truing my wheels" i mean just working out a slight wobble or two, i work out those trouble spots and im good

i dont need it to be laser straight within a micron
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cuz by "truing my wheels" i mean just working out a slight wobble or two, i work out those trouble spots and im good

i dont need it to be laser straight within a micron
So, you just assume that your wheels are already centered, and go from there. Problem is the OP is getting some cheap wheels that may be off center by a significant amount, and find that by simply truing the wheels alone will not get them to align properly.
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So, you just assume that your wheels are already centered, and go from there. Problem is the OP is getting some cheap wheeks that may be off center by a significant amount, and find that by simply truing the wheels alone will not get them to align properly.
true, machine built wheels might not be in the shape that ol' fauthful wheels are in

but im not assuming my wheel centered in the dropouts, and i dont need them to be perfectly centered in dropouts or a truing stand to see that the wheel has a wobble, just sayin

all that being said i had a set of really cheap wheels that were built by a machine and they never needed any adjustments
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true, machine built wheels might not be in the shape that ol' fauthful wheels are in

but im not assuming my wheel centered in the dropouts, and i dont need them to be perfectly centered in dropouts or a truing stand to see that the wheel has a wobble, just sayin

all that being said i had a set of really cheap wheels that were built by a machine and they never needed any adjustments
Maybe you misunderstand what I'm trying to say. By "centered" I mean the rim being centered relative to the axle locknuts at the inside of the dropouts. The rim may have zero lateral runout and still be off center on the hub. In this case, the wheel needs to be redished by tightening all the spokes on one side and then retrued. The easiest way to determine centering is with a dishing tool.
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