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Old 10-26-09 | 01:26 PM
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Old 12-13-09 | 03:09 PM
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a good friend of mine, nick frey, recently began marketing his bamboo bicycles, BOO BICYCLES. they have made road versions, commuter versions, cyclocross versions, and a track model. there is one tandem bike, built by and for the man who supervises construction of the bikes, in vietnam.

my question is this: how does the paketa bike compare to a bamboo tandem? i will be getting a small frameset, with a 50cm captain and 50 cm stoker, so weight should be low and stiffness high regardless. but what are the pros and cons of each of these frame material? can someone do a compare and contrast for me?

thanks so much. this decision process is excruciating, frankly...
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Old 12-13-09 | 06:23 PM
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Have ridden a bamboo Calfee single; every bit as comfortable as a Calfee carbon fiber.
Have hefted/seen Paketa tandem at Interbike a few years ago, but not ridden one; so have no comparison experience.
As far as overseas mass production goes for c/f or mg tandems, it is just too small of a market niche for them to spend the $$$ necessary.
C/f tandems are quite labor intensive, but then you get what you pay for.
We do ride a custom c/f Zona tandem and just celebrated our 25,000th mile on in 2009. Still extremely pleased with it! Quality lasts . . .
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Old 12-14-09 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by oldacura
I notice that Paketa is now a sponsor of this forum.

I have seen only one of these in person. I don't know that the owners frequent this forum. They have had the bike only about 2 - 3 months. They came from a steel tandem (wrecked in an accident). They seemed to really like the Paketa.

Most forum members who go high-end go carbon fiber. For those who have, did they consider the magnesium Paketa? If not, why not? If so, why did they choose CF over mg?

Anyone on this forum try or own a Paketa?

PAKETA is Russian for rocket(P=R), so I think it should be pronounced " Raketa." Is it really a rocket?:-)

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Old 12-15-09 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bikerkim
bamboo bicycles, BOO BICYCLES. they have made...one tandem bike,

my question is this: how does the paketa bike compare to a bamboo tandem?
The only other bamboo tandem has been the Calfee, and they've probably only sold a handful at best. Paketa tandems aren't particularly common. So, nobody is going to be able to directly compare the two. Bamboo bikes are about as heavy as steel, but are supposed to be very good at dampening, so I guess the stoker would be happy. Maybe your friend is going to revolutionize bamboo, but up to now bamboo has been more making a statement, being different, etc. A Paketa bike is about performance and being light.

Its funny that you are torn between two very different and uncommon frame materials. I guess you figure steel, aluminum and carbon are too prosaic.
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