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Old 04-28-15, 07:06 PM
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Oh my aching feet! HELP

I noticed today after about 30 miles that my feet were getting very sore from where the cleats mount on the shoe. I have Giro Rumble shoes, Shimano PD-M324 pedals. Hasn't been a problem i have noticed until today I guess. It was warm out, 77 f. Socks are syn/wool. Rumble shoes have probably 2K miles on them. The insert is getting pretty flat. When you pull the insert and feel in the shoe where the cleats are mounted, you can feel the hardware pretty easy from inside.

The obvious correction would be to replace the insert. Which I will do tomm. What say anybody about gluing a thin piece of leather over the inside where the hardware is? All suggestions appreciated. Got a 1000 mile trip planned on June 1 and this doesn't cut it.

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I had a pair of shoes that fit well and felt great, until about 25 miles. Then they killed me under the ball of the foot. After a couple rides like that, I pulled out the insole. On most of my other shoes, there is a flap inside where they peeled up part of the inside sole of the shoe to install the cleat hardware, then they closed the flap so there is a nice smooth surface under the insole. But on these shoes, there was a rectangular hole cut out for the cleat hardware, then a piece of soft foam in that hole. That soft foam was much more compressible than the rest of the inside of the shoe. Thus, when I pedaled, I was effectively trying to shove my foot into that little square hole.

I have a tin snips, if you do not know what that is, it is like a scissors that you can cut thin sheet metal with it. I took the metal from some large coffee can lids (tin coated steel) and cut a piece for each shoe that I put under the insole and it was much larger than the square hole with the cleat hardware so that it effectively created a new smooth solid platform for my feet to push on. I wanted to make sure that it did not move around, so I taped it into place so it could not shift out of place while I was replacing the insole. Replaced the insole. Has worked well for me since then, I was no longer trying to shove my foot into that stupid little square hole, instead the ball of my foot pushes on that steel platform that covers the hole.

Sounds to me like you have a similar problem. I can't say if my solution is the only one, but it works for me.

Option two - contact the shoe manufacturer and see if they will do anything under warranty.

Note on insoles, I have problems with insufficient arch on my feet. I use Superfeet insoles in several of my hiking boots and in some of my bike shoes. They are pricey, but I got most of mine for a good discount. They come in different thicknesses so you can custom fit the insole to your shoe based on the typical sock thickness that you typically use. They have to be trimmed to fit, be careful you do not cut too much off, it is better to cut off too little and then a few minutes later cut a bit more if necessary to make them fit. I usually trim a bit, trim a bit more, trim a bit more, until I get it spot on.
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Duct tape to the rescue once again !
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Those shoes look like walking shoes. Are they stiff? I injured my feet badly by overdoing it early this year (it was a very mild winter). I suspect the cause was worn out cleats that let my foot sag while I rode. Just saying, take care of your feet, even if it means buying new shoes.
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get shoes with stiffer soles.

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simon says, get shoes with stiffer soles.
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Originally Posted by cale
........ take care of your feet, even if it means buying new shoes.
+1 Sounds like the shoes may be worn out. Nothing lasts forever.
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On closer inspection of the inside of the shoes, the screws are protruding from the plate about 2-3 mm. Oh the bench grinder will get some work tomm morn. Will grind them off to the point where they are not sticking through anyway.

Good old farm kid like myself knows what a pair of tin snips are and I will cut some light duty tin or a piece of leather will be put over the top of the plate on the inside.
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The soles are very stiff. I like the shoes other than this issue. And I will overcome this issue. You all are right. The feet have it for sure.

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Try SPD sandals. I have never had sore foot problems with them, while I have had with other shoes.
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My Long-slow-distance touring bike has Toe clip pedals, so the shoes can fit loose , I have a supportive Insole (Cork, Birkenstock)

and the shoes, inside under the insole are nylon sheet stiffened.. all but the toes ..

theyre not store bought like that , I had a shoe shop modify the ones I had, ..
a shop that Would work with me in real time, not 'leave it and come back tuesday'.

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All is better now

As I stated in a previous post the hex screws that hold the cleat to the plate on the inside of the shoe were about 3mm too long and protruded into the foot area. Well today I ground the screws off with my air die grinder too be flush with the inside of the plate. And cut a piece of 1mm plastic sheet to fit over the plate. And yes placed some gorilla tape to hold the plastic down. My feet are now happy. . Not sure why I didn't notice the pain earlier. One more little item off the trip to do list. No onto issues like how much water to haul in eastern Montana.

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