Axiom Journey Disc
05-02-05, 08:37 PM
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Axiom Journey Disc
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I am looking at purchasing a Giant Rainier MTB which I want to also use for commuting and touring, but have to overcome the infernal problem of fitting rear pannier racks.
What experience have people had with the Axiom Journey Disc? Any idea of cost in North America? Dealers in NYC?
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I am looking at purchasing a Giant Rainier MTB which I want to also use for commuting and touring, but have to overcome the infernal problem of fitting rear pannier racks.
What experience have people had with the Axiom Journey Disc? Any idea of cost in North America? Dealers in NYC?
Thanks
05-02-05, 08:53 PM
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I got one for my BBU.
Nice rack, holds all the weight I can jam into it, big bag of cat litter, groceries, and 18pack of beer. 30+ lbs.
You would need really big panniers to overload it.
In NYC, almost any bike shop that deals with QBP (Quality Bike Parts distributor) can order one for you.
Some however may not want to take the time for a $30.00 item, thats about what I paid for it in Baltimore.
Rotor size is an issue, it will barely work with a 180mm avid juicy five disc, 160mm should be fine.I changed barkes from stock to the juicys and part of the pannier frame touches the caliper almost about 1 mm clearance.
Seems to be a pretty solid and well made rack, my .02 worth.
Nice rack, holds all the weight I can jam into it, big bag of cat litter, groceries, and 18pack of beer. 30+ lbs.
You would need really big panniers to overload it.
In NYC, almost any bike shop that deals with QBP (Quality Bike Parts distributor) can order one for you.
Some however may not want to take the time for a $30.00 item, thats about what I paid for it in Baltimore.
Rotor size is an issue, it will barely work with a 180mm avid juicy five disc, 160mm should be fine.I changed barkes from stock to the juicys and part of the pannier frame touches the caliper almost about 1 mm clearance.
Seems to be a pretty solid and well made rack, my .02 worth.
05-02-05, 08:54 PM
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I just installed an Axiom Journey on my son's Jamis Coda Sport. It is the regular Journey, not the "disc" model. I also put an Odysee on my hardtail MTB (V brakes, not disk). The racks look well-made, welds appear to be decent, and the weight rating (70kg) appears to be legit for a momentary static load (me) - I wouldn't put anywhere near that weight on it for a real ride. The versa-lock system is pretty flexible for getting the rack aft - the pannier mount points are noticably further aft than with my old Trek rack, and I no longer have a problem with heel strike using Performance Transit Pros. (I have some new panniers on order, follow-up after they arrive).
The racks have a 10mm diameter rod, so panniers with small hooks for 8mm rods may not fit. Also, I noticed on the odysee that the bottom part of the rack is relatively closer to the top than on my old rack. Panniers that use some sort of an s-hook on a bungee or adjustable strap (Performance) may be too tall for this. The Odysee has a bottom attachment point on the adjustable bottom mounts of the rack that was barely the right height. The Journey is taller and I think would be OK. I think better panniers that use a different attachment mecahnism should be OK.
I bought my racks on-line from aebike.com. Excellent prices and good shipment (UPS ground and they email you the tracking info when the order ships). They do not list the Axiom Journey disc in the catalog, but I'd email and ask - they can probably get it if they do not stock it.
The racks have a 10mm diameter rod, so panniers with small hooks for 8mm rods may not fit. Also, I noticed on the odysee that the bottom part of the rack is relatively closer to the top than on my old rack. Panniers that use some sort of an s-hook on a bungee or adjustable strap (Performance) may be too tall for this. The Odysee has a bottom attachment point on the adjustable bottom mounts of the rack that was barely the right height. The Journey is taller and I think would be OK. I think better panniers that use a different attachment mecahnism should be OK.
I bought my racks on-line from aebike.com. Excellent prices and good shipment (UPS ground and they email you the tracking info when the order ships). They do not list the Axiom Journey disc in the catalog, but I'd email and ask - they can probably get it if they do not stock it.
06-08-05, 12:17 PM
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Not sure if you still need it, but I've been looking into these racks as well. Found a web dealer out of San Diego:
https://store.airbomb.com/Items.asp?absPage=2&Mc=Axiom
Hope that helps!
https://store.airbomb.com/Items.asp?absPage=2&Mc=Axiom
Hope that helps!
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Can you give me some comments on both your BBU and rack? I am considering buying a BBU or TREK 7700. I currently have a TREK 730. I live in Germany and ride mostly paths, and cobblestone roads. I have had shoulder surgery so I need a suspension fork. I am a heavy guy (6' 260lbs) so I think I would benefit from the disk brakes also. How long have you had the BBU? Have you heard of or experienced any problems with it? Suspension problems? I have heard there were/are issues with the suspension fork.
Can you tell me where I could get a rack for the bike on line? I have limited options here in Germany and would be very difficult without the bike in hand at the moment. Any comments woudl be appreciated. Good and bad.
JinGermany
Can you tell me where I could get a rack for the bike on line? I have limited options here in Germany and would be very difficult without the bike in hand at the moment. Any comments woudl be appreciated. Good and bad.
JinGermany
10-31-05, 05:10 AM
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The Axiom Journey Disc fit my disc-equipped Jamis Coda Elite perfectly. The adjustment built into the rack helped make this possible. I load this thing mercilessly with computer, personal items, clothes and tools and so far it has held up very well. The bike has seat stay bolt-ons and the disc brake, part of which the rack affixes to the tab, is Avid BB-7.
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I bought one of these for a bike build I did with the Nashbar “X” Aluminum Cyclocross Frame. I put 160mm Avid BB7 road discs on the bike.
The rack doesn't work at all with this frame. It BARELY clears the disc mechanism, and if you put panniers on there, it wouldn't do that. Also, the arms that are supposed to attach near the seatpost aren't anywhere near long enough for this frame. If I mounted the rack to the point where the V brakes should mount, it would be pitched forward so that the rack platform is at about 15-20 degrees. I have no idea how this thing was supposed to work on *every* frame.
When I tried to mount it, it also was mounting off center on the rear wheel badly enough that I was worried about balance.
It's been cut to $19.95 at REI, and I think this is why. I'd say away from this one unless you're sure you can return it.
The rack doesn't work at all with this frame. It BARELY clears the disc mechanism, and if you put panniers on there, it wouldn't do that. Also, the arms that are supposed to attach near the seatpost aren't anywhere near long enough for this frame. If I mounted the rack to the point where the V brakes should mount, it would be pitched forward so that the rack platform is at about 15-20 degrees. I have no idea how this thing was supposed to work on *every* frame.
When I tried to mount it, it also was mounting off center on the rear wheel badly enough that I was worried about balance.
It's been cut to $19.95 at REI, and I think this is why. I'd say away from this one unless you're sure you can return it.
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04-28-14, 11:13 PM
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This is a really old thread, so it's possible/likely that those guys won't be seeing it to answer for you, but my friend with the Journey Disk is using Arkel Dolphins with no problem. Judging from seeing his rack and plenty of pannier attachment systems, I would think most would fit without issue. Is it perhaps an issue with your panniers not being particularly standard? What kind of Panniers do you have?
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