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Old 06-07-17, 02:34 PM
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Who still makes rear racks with brake attachments

All racks used to be attached by the brake mounting bolt at the brake bridge. All. Then seatstay braze-ons were added to bikes. Then brakes and frames went to recessed bolts. Now you can hardly find racks that attach to old way.

My Peter Mooney was built before any of these changes. Since it was a cantilever braked bike, adding or removing a brake mounted rack is a piece of cake. Those racks also work quite well if they are decently sturdy racks to begin with. And no way an I going to pay anybody to mess up the beautiful lines of that bike with seatstay braze-ons for the occasional tour.

So who makes a good, sturdy brake bolt mounted rear rack. Like the time honored Blackburn or maybe a step stiffer (And sturdier eyes at the fender bolts).

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Any reason you wouldn't just use P-clips and a regular rack?
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
All racks used to be attached by the brake mounting bolt at the brake bridge. All. Then seatstay braze-ons were added to bikes. Then brakes and frames went to recessed bolts. Now you can hardly find racks that attach to old way.

My Peter Mooney was built before any of these changes. Since it was a cantilever braked bike, adding or removing a brake mounted rack is a piece of cake. Those racks also work quite well if they are decently sturdy racks to begin with. And no way an I going to pay anybody to mess up the beautiful lines of that bike with seatstay braze-ons for the occasional tour.

So who makes a good, sturdy brake bolt mounted rear rack. Like the time honored Blackburn or maybe a step stiffer (And sturdier eyes at the fender bolts).

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Many of the Blackburn racks can still be used that way. A lot of them have six holes across the top of the rack. The 4 on the side are used for seatstay mounts while the 2 in the middle are used for brake bridge mounts. You may need to do some vise surgery on the rack stay to get it to mount however.

Delta racks also have that option. But, again, you'll probably need to bend some metal.

For high zoot, the Tubus Fly attaches that way too. Just about any Tubus rack could probably be adapted with a bit of drilling as well. I actually prefer the Tubus to the old flat stays on Blackburns. They are easier to adjust and have more mounting options.
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there are the Axiom Streamliner type ones, I put one on my wifes road bike a few years ago and they seem sturdy enough. The specific streamliner model does have a very narrow top section, hence the streamliner name, so not really practical to put stuff on top....
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79pmooney, Old Man Mountain might still have the piece that mounted to the canti bosses. The two upper rack stays mount to the side of the rack and then to the adapter. It is/was used with a Santana tandem. The adapter piece was U shaped.

I adapted my OMM Santana rack to mount without the adapter onto my touring bike.

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PS I found this to help explain: https://santanatandem.com/Library/RearRackInst.pdf

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"All racks used to be attached by the brake mounting bolt at the brake bridge. All."

Actually not all. Some Peter Mooney frames (and most proper touring frames) utilized two points of rack attachment to seat stays even back in the early 1980s. "Sports touring" frames did however use a single brake bolt attachment, and there were a lot more of them sold than pure touring bikes, much like today.

Most any rack will attach to the brake bolt provided you can get the final connecting piece. A small bit of flat aluminum, a vise, drill, file and a some labor and problem is solved. Also, it's not reasonable to expect a ~30 year old bike, car, etc to have readily available parts, be easy to work on, or be the least expensive option. It is not unusual for racks and especially fenders to require some custom fitting to achieve desired result.




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If you're not into DIY, Tubus supplies a bolt-on seatstay adaptor:

https://www.tubus.com/product.php?xn=60

https://www.bikeshophub.com/product/...nt-p-1035.html
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Wayne at thetouringstore.com may be able to help.
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just pick up ye olde adaptere from lbs. cost maybe a buck..

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Originally Posted by seeker333
"All racks used to be attached by the brake mounting bolt at the brake bridge. All."

Actually not all. Some Peter Mooney frames (and most proper touring frames) utilized two points of rack attachment to seat stays even back in the early 1980s. "Sports touring" frames did however use a single brake bolt attachment, and there were a lot more of them sold than pure touring bikes, much like today.
True. I forgot about my old Miyata 610 with the factory installed rack. Probably because I never put it on nor took it off.

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Those are far superior to p-clips and worth the extra money. I have them top and bottom on my Moots which doesn't have rack mounts



and on my commuter bike which only has the lower rack mount




They are way easier to use.

Alternatively, you only really need one of the rack stays anyway, especially if the stays are the round type like the ones found on Tubus racks. The left side stay interferes with the brake on my wife's tiny bike, so I just use one on the right side. Works perfectly.



You can see the same thing on my Moots, although I had to twist the stay around more to get it to fit.
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look for a rack with 3 sets of holes?


checked out Old Man Mountain racks, they are a bit heavy though welded of aluminum, reliable, have a mount to
the bolt that secures your V brakes, fronts that use the Axle QR (a rear longer QR)
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