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Old 11-08-18, 03:13 PM
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If someone is looking for an XS or XL touring bike on a budget...

https://www.amazon.com/Cinelli-Hoboo...8Ee9-fzg&psc=1
tip from general cycling


$522 for XS and $531 for XXL.
3x9 wide range gearing, front and rear racks included, and free shipping even!

Smokin deal.

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Only XS cheap now.....
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Only XS cheap now.....
mistyped earlier
XS and XXL are the sizes.

...though i wouldnt be surprised if one of those two sizes suddenly shoots up $700 to match pricing for the other bikes. It's amazon and there is no rhyme or reason for a lot of pricing, even when algorithms are cited as reason.
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...though i wouldnt be surprised if one of those two sizes suddenly shoots up $700 to match pricing for the other bikes. It's amazon and there is no rhyme or reason for a lot of pricing, even when algorithms are cited as reason.
Yep. Saw that exact same issue when the Raleigh Grand Prix thread was going on a few months back, prices bounced around even hour by hour.
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Old 11-09-18, 12:47 AM
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I see the same types of bargains on Probikeshop and Bikester. They have great prices for the less desirable sizes
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thanks for putting this up, I tried to entice a friend for one, but for a short or tall rider, this is a great deal of a bike, ready to tour. Great gearing as is and if bar end shifters are your thing, a very competent bike.
You do have to assemble it though, so not for everyone I guess.
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It checked all the important boxes for me, so I pulled the trigger...an offer I could not refuse. I just hope the xxl frame is not too big, but even if it is, the other components are probably worth the money to use on another frame.
Thanks for the heads up !

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I just hope the xxl frame is not too big, but even if it is, the other components are probably worth the money.
Thanks for the heads up !
XXL is 61 cm. That's pretty big.

The Amazon listing is short on details. Did you research the bike independently? Found a review yesterday when the link was posted elsewhere. Lowdown on components are that some are good, some are not, and overall the bike is quite heavy, according to the review.
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The Amazon listing is short on details. Did you research the bike independently? Found a review yesterday when the link was posted elsewhere. Lowdown on components are that some are good, some are not, and overall the bike is quite heavy, according to the review.
I think for $550, give or take some, getting a butted CrMo frame and a Deore/Sora drivetrain, as well as fenders and racks included, the drawbacks are majorly outweighed by the positives. I'd buy that over Bikes Direct Tourist. Whether it is worth $1500ish for the other sizes, I would probably argue against.

TUBESET:Columbus Cromor Double Butted Steel
FORK:Cinelli Cr-Mo Steel 1-1/8"
HEADSET:EC 34/28.6 | EC 34/30
STEM:CINELLI Bootleg 6061 Ø 31.8 mm - Size 90 (XS / S) 100 (M / L / XL) 110 (XXL)
HANDLEBAR:Cinelli Bootleg 6061 Ø 31.8mm Long Dist. Traveler Sweep
TAPE:Cinelli Hobo Alphabet VolÌÎå©e Ribbon + AVS Gel Pads
SEATPOST:Cinelli Bootleg 6061 Ø 27.2mm
SADDLE:Selle San Marco Ischia Bootleg Custom
CRANKSET:FSA AlphaDrive Trekking 26/36/48T 170/175mm
BOTTOM BRACKET:FSA BB-7420 ST
FRONT DERAILLEUR:Shimano Sora
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CHAIN:KMC Z99
CASSETTE:Shimano CS-HG400 11/34T
SHIFTERS:Microshift BS-T09 Bar End - Index/Friction
BRAKES:Tektro 992AG Cantilever - RL340 Brake Levers
WHEELS:Alex Rims DH19 36H - Shimano Sora Hubs
TIRES:Vittoria Randonneur Trail 700x38 (*XS 26"x1.75")
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
XXL is 61 cm. That's pretty big.

The Amazon listing is short on details. Did you research the bike independently? Found a review yesterday when the link was posted elsewhere. Lowdown on components are that some are good, some are not, and overall the bike is quite heavy, according to the review.
6'2" with long legs, but I know the frame size is a gamble... I liked everything else without having to upgrade, and not bothered by frame weight.
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Whether it is worth $1500ish for the other sizes, I would probably argue against.
Funny you should say that. The review I mentioned said if you pay full price, which $1,500 pretty much is, you are overpaying because of the mediocre components.
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Funny you should say that. The review I mentioned said if you pay full price, which $1,500 pretty much is, you are overpaying because of the mediocre components.
Definitely agree at regular price it is overvalued for the components and weight, just thought you meant the review was in reference to the $500 price point
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6'2" with long legs, but I know the frame size is a gamble... I liked everything else without having to upgrade, and not bothered by frame weight.
on the topic--using a very short stem in my experience, has not been a real problem at all. I have a 50mm I think on one of my dropbar bikes and with a handlebar bag and two front panniers, it steers perfectly fine.
Even unloaded it steers perfectly fine, although I am very aware that this is dependant on the specific bike frame,

just bringing it up because some people claim its a total no no to do, but its not so cut and clear.
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on the topic--using a very short stem in my experience, has not been a real problem at all. I have a 50mm I think on one of my dropbar bikes and with a handlebar bag and two front panniers, it steers perfectly fine.
Even unloaded it steers perfectly fine, although I am very aware that this is dependant on the specific bike frame,

just bringing it up because some people claim its a total no no to do, but its not so cut and clear.
It arrived today,unscathed and mostly assembled. Looking at shortening the stem and substituting trekking bars to offset the frame size.
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I have a bike i commute on with trekking bars on. The tt was a bit long but even with a long stem, trekking bars position is pretty good. I rode it today in fact.
Trekking bars by their nature most likely wont need a short stem, but the bars i have are std diameter, not oversize, so keep that in mind for looking at stems.

I have inexpensive trekking bars , the only ones found around here, about 25 or 30 bucks, probably the same ones you americans can get at nashbar or whatever.

9 speed deore trigger shifters work great and can be found easily new, not expensive at all and last and last and last.

if you have trekking bar qauestions, ask.
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Yep. Saw that exact same issue when the Raleigh Grand Prix thread was going on a few months back, prices bounced around even hour by hour.
the 2 discounted sizes are now $1500+ because its amazon...so why not.
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the 2 discounted sizes are now $1500+ because its amazon...so why not.
But the large is now $1100!
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1-track, if you’re getting trekking bars because they interest you, then by all means do, but if it’s just for the reach issue, also consider a short reach/shallow bar. Between the long stem, longer reach bars, and modern brake levers that put you completely out on the hoods rather than the car at all, you’re probably nearly a foot out front on that bike. With a short stem and shallow bars, I’d think you could bring that in ~4 inches. That’s quite a bit when it comes to reach and could make the difference. I have long legs and always have to adjust my reach a good bit closer from “stock” set-up. If I rode a frame that “fit” me in the top tube, it would be too short height wise and the bars would be too low.
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1-track, if you’re getting trekking bars because they interest you, then by all means do, but if it’s just for the reach issue, also consider a short reach/shallow bar. Between the long stem, longer reach bars, and modern brake levers that put you completely out on the hoods rather than the car at all, you’re probably nearly a foot out front on that bike. With a short stem and shallow bars, I’d think you could bring that in ~4 inches. That’s quite a bit when it comes to reach and could make the difference. I have long legs and always have to adjust my reach a good bit closer from “stock” set-up. If I rode a frame that “fit” me in the top tube, it would be too short height wise and the bars would be too low.
absolutely agree.
I was lent a small sized "junior"road bike bike years ago that I was going to set up for my wife. It had a long stem and "long" dimensions drop bars, and I saw that with a short stem and "short" drops, I could shave off easily 3 if not 4 inches in "seat to bars" distance.
Didnt do it in the end, got another bike, but I agree with 3speed.

measure the stem and the specifics of the bars and look around, and figure out the dimensions that work for you, hopefully you have an existing bike to compare to.
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