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Old 12-01-18 | 02:14 PM
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My Touring bike I stayed with the simple and reliable .
3 by 6 Speed, Freewheel, Phil Hub, Brought the Freewheel remover,
Borrowed the big Wrench from some townsfolk... when I broke 1 spoke.
I had a spare in my panniers..
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Old 12-01-18 | 03:16 PM
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Just in case -- Abbey tools has a great line of tools and sockets. For example, you could get BB sockets and cassette socket for 3/8" drive. Makes for a very compact set for the ready-for-any-situation tourist. (used with a diminutive zyklop mini + 3/8" adapter + (maybe) some cheater, difficult to imagine a more compact kit). They also make a neat preload tool.

For the record, I carry the Wolftooth BB tool (previous generation). Very lightweight but a bit of a hassle because of its size and the flat handle is not comfortable to tighten/loosen a lock ring. Considering a switch to sockets.
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Old 12-01-18 | 04:00 PM
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Those Abbey tools look pretty beefy. I'm a tool geek, and even I wouldn't pay their prices.
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Old 12-01-18 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisx
How long will the aluminum tool last?
Does steel cost more to manufacture than aluminum?
The Park tool and the Wolf tool are different. Hard to compare the use of the inserts with the single use tool Park has.

Wolf is using 7075 Aluminum. It should be strong enough if it is built right. I would have left a little extra metal around the magnets, but I assume they've done some testing of the tools before bringing them to market.

Use it as intended as an emergency road tool (replace spokes, etc). Use the inserts with a 1" wrench at home if desired.

It isn't intended to be dropped off at the local bike co-op for thousands of non-mechanics to use it, and breaking loose stubborn freewheels by standing on it.

Aluminum tools? Mom has a pair of aluminum fishing sinker pliers. All aluminum except hinge pin. Deceptively cheap looking. Probably 50 years old by now, and as far as I know, still working. They've gone on many camping trips. Used for a lot more than splitting lead balls.

I woudn't be surprised if one could get decades of home use out of that tool, and likely would eventually dig it out of the pack, and start using it for daily use.
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Old 12-01-18 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
The Park tool and the Wolf tool are different. Hard to compare the use of the inserts with the single use tool Park has.

Wolf is using 7075 Aluminum. It should be strong enough if it is built right. I would have left a little extra metal around the magnets, but I assume they've done some testing of the tools before bringing them to market.

Use it as intended as an emergency road tool (replace spokes, etc). Use the inserts with a 1" wrench at home if desired.

It isn't intended to be dropped off at the local bike co-op for thousands of non-mechanics to use it, and breaking loose stubborn freewheels by standing on it.

Aluminum tools? Mom has a pair of aluminum fishing sinker pliers. All aluminum except hinge pin. Deceptively cheap looking. Probably 50 years old by now, and as far as I know, still working. They've gone on many camping trips. Used for a lot more than splitting lead balls.

I woudn't be surprised if one could get decades of home use out of that tool, and likely would eventually dig it out of the pack, and start using it for daily use.
I'd expect that Wolf tool to outlast the 16 notch bb standard by a long shot. TBH
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Old 12-01-18 | 04:51 PM
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I'd expect that Wolf tool to outlast the 16 notch bb standard by a long shot. TBH
I'd expect the cassette tool to be good for a good long time. But, that could also change overnight, if 10T cassettes become the new accepted standard.

Their "pack" also includes a few Allen wrenches... that I'm not sure would have a high utility, and the old style Shimano bottom bracket tool (which is slowly heading towards obsolescence... maybe).
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Old 12-01-18 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
I'd expect the cassette tool to be good for a good long time. But, that could also change overnight, if 10T cassettes become the new accepted standard.

Their "pack" also includes a few Allen wrenches... that I'm not sure would have a high utility, and the old style Shimano bottom bracket tool (which is slowly heading towards obsolescence... maybe).
The cassette bb tool well be useful the a long while. You also need it for center lock disk lockrings... And even Campagnolo settled on CL as their standard for disc rotors
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SRAM and Campagnolo are moving towards 10T cassettes. I don't have them so I haven't paid a lot of attention to locking mechanisms.

Shimano has had 9T for a while, but it is rather only a small niche part. But, I'd expect them to come up with a 10T, 11S & 12S cassette by 2020.
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Old 12-02-18 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
SRAM and Campagnolo are moving towards 10T cassettes. I don't have them so I haven't paid a lot of attention to locking mechanisms.

Shimano has had 9T for a while, but it is rather only a small niche part. But, I'd expect them to come up with a 10T, 11S & 12S cassette by 2020.
11 and 12 i think it is. Affordable xt version should be here before 2020.
Shimano CS-M9100 XTR Cassette

10-51t (10,12,14,16,18,21,24,28,33,39,45,51)


Hyperglide+ is your new best friend! Fast shifting, power transfer and stability like you’ve never experienced
  • Lets you pedal continuously while shifting
  • Increased acceleration by reducing inertia and weight by BEAM SPIDER construction
  • Definitive shifting
  • Hyperglide+ 30% quicker shifting
  • New MICRO SPLINE construction to engage FREEHUB body
  • Compatible Chain: CN-M9100
  • Series: CS-M9100
  • Generation: XTR M9100
  • Speeds: 12 speed
  • Cogs: choose; 10-45t (10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-40-45T), or 10-51t (10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-33-39-45-51T)
  • Material: Titanium, aluminium & steel
  • Cassette/Freehub Compatibility: HYPERGLIDE+ (not compatible with standard HG freehub bodies)
  • Weight: 349g. (10-45t); 359g. (10-51t)
  • Finish: Anodized
Damn, paid 34.95 for a 44 mm bb tool, then the very next day you need a 39 mm instead.

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Old 12-02-18 | 12:34 PM
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Wolf Tooth Components makes some nice stuff. I use their chainring bolts a lot because they work well and look nice and are MUSA. I also have some other stuff from them and have been quite happy with it. Lightweight stuff is quite handy for on the road. No I probably wouldn't use this for everyday use in a shop but if you are doing some touring in a remote area I might consider stuff like this.
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Old 12-02-18 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisx
How long will the aluminum tool last?
Does steel cost more to manufacture than aluminum?

Those wolf tooth guys have some good ideas sure,
but
their level of greed stops me from ordering.

Is the $20.00 Park tool just to heavy
is it greed or is it small batch manufacturing?
are they getting rich, or is the market size too limited and their pricing simply reflects needing to be profitable at the volumes they expect to sell?

I have never seen wolftooth products and thought the company was greedy. I have, many times, seen their products and thought they are neat but more than I want to spend.
that's not the same as greed.

i have some stuff from wolftooth that and it all is product that I think the cost is worth the value. The MUSA 1x anodized chainring bolts I used recently on a Mountain bike build for my daughter are great. Only a bit more than generic chromed bolts and they are the correct length for an attached bashguard.
nice all around.

The price for those bolts, compared to much in life, is excessively high. But it's a hobby and I am lucky enough to be able to buy unnecessary stuff like those bolts. There is a demand for these products, so a company has to price accordingly to ensure money is made while selling the products.
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Old 12-02-18 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisx

$19.90 vs $34.95, Park tool will last a life time, aluminum wolf tool will not last.


Is this a rude post that should not be on the bike forum?

Do you work for Wolf Tooth? Why do you think talking about over priced tools is a personal insult and respond with an insult?
If you do not work there why would you care what I type?
I suspect this is a sales pitch disguised as a post.
I never buy tools from rude sales people.
you already had a post(or two?) deleted from the thread for being judgy and preachy as to how people spend their money.
you really are calling the kettle black with a demand that the thread be moved.
its obvious the poster isnt trying to sell anything- dont be that type of poster.

another swing and miss from you.
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Old 12-02-18 | 09:46 PM
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I love me some WolfTooth, and I didn't even know that chain link tool was a thing. Ordered one today.
As a bonus, that little "Y" shaped cutout is a valve core remover.
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