Here you go:

https://seatosummit.com/products/spa...42585351946413

10% off your first order.

Thanks for the link, however my budget is much lower than 400 bucks. Got all winter to find something. Used equipment is proving to be stupidly priced, and it looks like new will be the choice to make. Still having fun in the hunt.

Ya, that's an expensive sleeping bag.
Read up a lot on bags and quilts, and keep an eye out for sales and whatnot. Seems to me there are some good options of temp rated to about 0c 32f stuff out there.
My 0c rated quilt is an example of that, well under a 400 us budget.
I was surprised by how I find a quilt to work quite well for me.
Again though, a camp mat with more R rating will make a difference in sleep comfort.

When we decided to go touring on our tandem, we discovered that weight and volume were related. You want to go light, go small and light will follow. And yes, light is expensive. I think we spent about $1200 at REI and that was years ago.

Some stores will have an extra special discount on the day or the weekend after thanksgiving. Some stores may even offer the ability to order on line during the evening of Thanksgiving. I ordered some stuff on one store website after 9pm last year in the evening on thanksgiving day, that store started their on line thanksgiving sales after 9pm.

Three years ago I was watching a sleeping bag on sale at REI outlet, and a few days after christmas REI had an extra discount on one item from their outlet site, so I ordered the bag I had been considering when I saw that extra discount. The original price was $340, marked down to $240, and with that extra discount was $191 before sales tax.

Under 200 bucks is where I want to be. I am looking for a bag that can open up enough to work as a quilt since I prefer quilts because I move around a lot during sleep. This means I will need at least 54" width when opened flat. Wide and xtra-long fits this bill.

Sorry if I already posted this, but this is what I got. Might not be long enough for you, and it does have an enclosed toe box.
Good price, quite light, under 700g so about 1.5lbs and rated to 0c 32f
There must be similar REI or whatever versions of this, but at least this gives an idea of what is out there.
I got it on sale for a bit over 200 cad two years ago. Even 300 cad new is only about 200 U.S

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/6022-6...BoCsRMQAvD_BwE

Wide and extra long, I think the technical term for that is 'big.'

REI is currently doing 50% off last season items. Plenty of sleeping bags in the mix: https://www.rei.com/c/backpacking-sl...eping-bags%3Bf

The two I would be looking at (I always opt for backpacking, down and 20 or below) would be:

https://www.rei.com/product/216103/b...eping-bag-mens
https://www.rei.com/product/246306/m...eping-bag-mens

There is also a 30 degree version of the first bag: https://www.rei.com/product/216107/b...eping-bag-mens

There are cheaper options.

I think what you are looking for will be hard to find, as most sleeping bags now days are mummy style with a hood. Or at least the colder weather ones will be.

You can click the box for "semi-rectangular" on the REI sleeping bag list:
https://www.rei.com/c/sleeping-bags?...emirectangular

Not sure if that is what you want, but some of those would open up like a big comforter.

At their website, you can also do a search for quilt.

I mentioned in a previous post the sleeping bag I got three years ago on sale at REI, it was this one in the long configuration:
https://sierradesigns.com/nitro-20/

They also made that in a quilt configuration, I remember that because I almost by accident ordered this one but this is not what I wanted:
https://sierradesigns.com/nitro-quilt-20

Good luck finding what you want, as it might be hard to find.

Poly, the bags at REI were spot on, however when I looked at the length of the long bag, it is only 78 inches. No can do. The bag I have now is 77 inches and needs to be longer by at least 6 inches. I have found the quilt I had made last year at 86" is the perfect length. As MSN says, it might be hard to find what I am looking for.

how tall are you, can't recall if you wrote that already. I'm about 5'10" and a 76in long quilt works well, one with a toe box construction, so keeps my feet enclosed. You've said how a longer one works for you better, so you certainly have that as a reference.

With quilts, the system of a couple of small straps that go under your camp mat to hold the quilt in place actually does work well I've found. It allows you to toss and turn , keeping the quilt over you properly.
Like I mentioned at some point, if you are really planning to sleep out at temps getting any where near freezing, you'll appreciate a warmer campmat with a higher R rating, or some simple foam mat to go under your campmat, but they are super bulky.

If you really want to go all out, replace the tent, cooking gear, and sleeping gear with a credit card, the weight savings will be phenomenal.

Pratt, you are on to something! Have given it thought, however what's the fun in hotels night after night? Too easy. The size I need is XL. BIG. Also have realized that the only winter camping I do is on foot, not by bike. Will stay with the old Army bag and concentrate on finding the appropriate quilt. I have stumbled upon a hammock top quilt by a company called One Wind. They have an 84x53 top quilt. Looking into it some more, and going to see what other top quilts are out there.
Anyway, everyone here has been very helpful and it is much appreciated.

I like staying outside most of the time. Last Wednesday night I heard a couple of owls and what I am pretty sure was a loon. I also enjoy cooking dinner.

Read The Pacific Crest Trail Hiker's Handbook by Ray Jardine, I read the first edition in the 90s, may be different title now. Summary: He hiked the Appalachian trail with typical pack of mega weight, I think over 60 lbs, decided there was a better way. Ray was a rocket payload engineer. Lower the payload, you need less fuel. Less fuel, the whole rocket can be lighter. That lowers fuel requirements even more.

He ended up with a simple pack, I think 8 lbs for that and contents, not counting food and water. With less weight, he could hike in running shoes, much lighter, and cover far more distance in a day, which also meant less food to carry between resupply boxes at mailed intervals. He could also descend quickly from high altitude on the Pac Trail if needed, so less critical to carry heavier outerwear.

The big 3 are:
- backpack: sewn himself, one compartment with only shoulder straps.
- shelter: he used a simple tarp.
- sleeping bag: he used a simple quilt he made himself.

I went a la cart, adopting some of his practices:
- 3000 cubic inch pack, with shoulder straps and good hip belt, about 3 lbs, less than half of the biggies.
- rectangular dome tent, 2 person, only a pound heavier than 1-person and way better to sit out rain in, room for gear inside, freestanding so easy to set up on solid rock if needed, easy to move, 5 lbs I think.
- sleeping bag depending on the weather, fleece pants and jacket for more warmth if needed, and can use on trail, perhaps 4 lbs for all.

That's 12 lbs. Add stove and fuel, food, water, oh and I like adjustable height hiking poles, poles allow using my arms to climb too, way more efficient and faster, easier on knees. And these days there are tents and lean-to's that use them instead of tent poles. But I also require bug screens, not open. I also need a sleep mat or my shoulders and hips ache in the morning. So I think I'm below 20 lbs on the pack with food and water, but I haven't thru-hiked yet.

So apply the above to bike touring:

No pack, but simple panniers with ultralight ditty bags may be lighter and tougher than more complex panniers.

Compactness of stuffed sleeping bag is as important as weight. Down has traditionally been best there, but it's useless if wet and slow to dry. I think there may be better synthetic substitutes these days, that don't loose their loft as much from constant tight stuffing, and dry out easier each day from just sleep moisture.

Shelter: That varies a ton based on where you are touring. I may want to be able to fold my bike and bring inside the tent for anti-theft. I traded out my old tent for one with vestibules on both sides, had terrible hot weather ventilation versus open fly on my old one, plus heavier, I got my old tent back from my brother, gave him a car-camping tent, better suited to him.

It's about a philosphy, questions to ask. Oh and I also dried my own food, rather than the expensive freeze-dried.

Duragrouch, excellent suggestion on the book to read. I have read quite a bit over the past month on packing light and am now shooting for 22 pounds total weight. I think it is doable. Fortunately one does not need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out, just some ingenuity.
Yesterday I did a test ride with a rear rack I just made and a small load of 10 pounds. It was just fine. as the rear load will be limited to 10 pounds, I can now move to putting the fork racks on a diet. Haven't decided how to go about it, but it will come.
Have reduced the packs and racks plus gear carried by 30 pounds this far. I believe I have found a top quilt from a small maker that fits the bill. Will update when appropriate.

Also curious how tall you are. I can't speak to quilts but something to think about with backpacking oriented sleeping bags (if you were to go that route) is they are designed so that the bag rolls with you when you turn from side to side or roll over. You lose this functionality if the bag doesn't fit snugly in all directions (not to mention insulation issues that arise).

From what I responded earlier:
"I'm about 5'10" and a 76in long quilt works well, one with a toe box construction, so keeps my feet enclosed. You've said how a longer one works for you better, so you certainly have that as a reference.

With quilts, the system of a couple of small straps that go under your camp mat to hold the quilt in place actually does work well I've found. It allows you to toss and turn , keeping the quilt over you properly."

Id say the comfort thing might be personal, plus like I also mentioned, your camp mat insulation r factor and what you are wearing are all going to play a part in comfort for a given temp.
What really appealed to me with the quilt I got was how light it is, and compressed small.

I hope this fellow gets a bag or quilt that works for him.

Oh, sorry, I meant I am also curious how tall the OP is.

I am 6 foot in height. I like a lot of quilt to surround myself with. Note, I do not wrap myself in the quilt, it is simply bunched up around me as I sleep.

I used to use a thermarest self-inflating sleeping pad. In recent decades I went to a big agnes one, thicker and with synthetic down insulation inside, I just need to blow it up, not hard. Now, most sleeping bags with the best lightweight insulation, that compresses underneath you so doesn't do much good. One of the companies, may be big agnes, can't remember, they have a system; The sleeping bag has insulation on top, none on the bottom, just a light fabric sleeve that the pad slips into, which works well, especially if your pad is insulated. However, a fully insulated bag does provide insurance in case your pad springs a leak. By the way, big agnes was good on that, mine spring a tiny leak where it was folded to roll small (BA pads are short folded and rolled, like a coffee can), and typical pad patches didn't hold against their fabric exterior. They said send it in, I did, they sent me a new pad.

a little warning against this concept:
I used a light sleeping bag for decades with this concept, much lighter insulation on bottom of bag, with the goal to reduce bag weight. It was however rather narrow (to maximize warming by having less dead air) but even as a slight fellow, I found in colder temps I would feel cold on my back when I turned in the night, because the whole bag would turn with me, exposing my back with hardly any insulation to the cold air when I was on my side.
It probably would have been alright if the bag had more real estate, more volume, allowing more turning to side to side easier without rotating the whole bag with you.

The quilit system with those two strap thingees does a pretty good job of keeping the quilt over you and fairly easy to keep it tucked up against you enough on both sides.

Good to know, thanks! Yeah, I'm a side sleeper anyway.

When I toured in flatland on a long-wheelbase recumbent with a B.O.B. trailer with a huge rubbermaid container in it, and rear panniers, I had huge amounts of space (don't even ask me the weight of the rig, it would have been impossible in hills, and even mild hills, I needed lower gearing than was available at the time, as I couldn't stand on the pedals). But anyway...

So much space I could toss the sleeping bag in loosely to dry out any sleep moisture during the day, the underside of the rubbermaid handles had vent holes shielded from any rain. I carried two lightweight down sleeping bags, rectangular, they were cheap on clearance, and nice to zip together for camping with my gal. But on that tour, I usually used one, and if it got cold, put one inside the other, plenty of space for it and also reduced empty air space, was very warm. On a different tour I brought one bag and a rectangular black fleece bag, nice for summer nights, but also, one night down at the lakeshore north of Chicago, I stealth-camped with no tent, on top of one of the huge flat rocks or broken concrete, can't remember, and the fleece over the down bag on top and the thermarest underneath, provided the right warmth, armored the down bag nylon taffeta and air mattress from abrasion, and provided black, non-reflective stealth.

These days I ride a 20" folder with full panniers, I'll never have the luxury of that much space again. I'll need to carry a single mummy bag that is more efficient in volume versus warmth.

most of the time, I'm sure the majority of us tour in summer months, so summer bags are warm enough.
We've also taken small fleece blankets with us on some trips, nice on cool mornings or nights with a summer bag, with fairly minimal weight and a bit of extra volume, but with pannier traveling, there's usually room for them.
I wouldnt take my down quilt on a summer trip, it would be total overkill and not pleasant to sleep under or even loosely over parts of me, so having even an inexpensive, small summer bag has its place in our outdoor stuff depending on the weather conditions.