With an upcoming tour later this summer we will be crossing Wyoming. Wondering if anhas a suggestion for some type of water bladder ?
Thanks!

Camelbak. at least 2 liters is what I use.

I’ve had various one and two litre bladders by Platypus and Sawyer… However I’ve found they don’t last, often springing a leak at the welds at the top.
Now I just use PET bottles

It sounds like you want to carry the bladder separately? If so, you can remove the one inside a Camelbak to carry in panniers.
Then, at a potty break, use it to refill your water bottle mounted to the frame. Just an idea, since I carry one while backpacking.

Cranktank (https://www.adventurehydration.com/p...SAAEgJRXvD_BwE)

got me across the Great Divide Basin last summer. I don't like things on my back. Saw one other user who was also very happy with his.

Camelbak would be the bladder I would recommend. I use their bottles and they are fantastic and the only ones I would use no matter how many free bottles I get.

I've tried several different ones an it depends some on how you want to use it...
1. I like having a good reminder to drink often and don't mind a little weight on my back - so have used a Camelbak with their standard 3L bladder. In some places with larger gaps, I've even put a second bladder in my Camelbak pack, though sometimes picked a competitor.
2. If I was usin it more to carry water in my panniers, MSR makes a nice durable set of water reservoirs, I believe Dromedary is the line. I also had one from Sea to Summit but wasn't as durable as MSR. On a ride across Russia we used a 10L MSR bag to fill up at end of the day e.g. in a village and then cycled another 10km before camping. That bag was very durable to jostling around those 10km segments for a longer trip.
3. For use mostly in camp (or in hotels) where I was filtering water, I tried a set of 5L SOCATER water container bags ($10 for 4 5L bags). They served their purpose in Madagascar and still use in local camping trips here in TX. One did spring a leak. But as an inexpensive store a bunch of filtered water around camp they worked well.

In summary on my back I'd lean towards a Camelbak or clone - and as a durable one to carry in my panniers I would consider the MSR.

Biking, I just use bottles, not bladders. The one liter Smart Water and one liter Life WTR bottles fit normal cages. But most bikes can't take a bottle that big below the downtube like mine can.



The flip top lids in the photo above came from other bottles. The one liter bottles use just a threaded cap.

Bottles are a lot cheaper than bladders, I often chuck my used bottles at the end of a trip.

On one trip where I wanted to carry two more liters, I just used a two liter size soda pop bottle. Discarded into recycling bin at end of trip.

But for backpacking and canoeing, I use an Evernew bladder, but with tarrifs the price has gone up. I think they are made in Japan.
https://www.amazon.com/EVERNEW-Water-...dp/B000AQYY5Q/

I do not carry it on a bike, but I use a pair of them for a gravity water filter system, for backpacking, kayak and canoe trips. Photo below shows my system.



I have read of people complaining that the plastic part with the threads can tear off the sheet plastic in the bladder if you pick it up the wrong way. The way I pick it up is to squeeze it with my fingers as shown below:


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That way I am pressing the sheet plastic against the plastic block that has the opening. In other words, I am basically pressing on the white dot in the photo below when I pick it up:



I think I have about 11 or 12 weeks of daily use without any problem with the pair. They use the same threads as common soda pop bottles.

Do any of these water bladders certify that they are low-toxicity?

Thanks and good health, Weogo

Long, Long, Ago, in an age not too far off, I was hiking with the boys in West Texas. Summer or Winter that means lots of water. We watered more then frequently and in those days we were treating wild water with Iodine tabs. The water bladders did not last as long as they do now days and one of the boys ran his water bladder tube through the top of a 3L Soda Bottle. Although bulky he managed to secure it inside his frame pack without difficulty. It turned out that his rig was the easiest to refill, clean, treat, and replace, of all the canteens we had. Just a thought...

I've done a lot of desert travel, mostly by foot, including walking across Wyoming on the CDT. One bit of wisdom I gained along the way is to use multiple smaller containers, 2L max, so a single container failure doesn't put you in danger. It's also easier to balance the load. I've also seen bite valves and tubes fail, sometimes through user error, so don't rely on something with a tube to be your only source of water. The most water I normally carry is 7L, which I do with two 2L Platypus bladders and three 1L soda or Smart Water bottles. An advantage of the commercial soda bottles is that it's easy to replace one, often from the side of the road, in case of loss or failure, or you just want to carry a little more one day. And they fit in a bike bottle cage.

I've joked that you could cross the Sahara with Ortleib panniers filled with water. You would need to beef up the mounting hardware, the racks and the mounting points. Come up with an appropriate closure at the pannier top. But those panniers are totally up to the required strength and waterproof- ness. (I use mine for shopping at the farmer's market for produce. When needed, I wash them like flexible pots. Partially fill with soapy water, scrub, rinse and hang upside down to dry.)

Edit: after reading andrewclaus' post - I'll pass on the experiment. An angry camel could kick my pannier and it if didn't repent and carry me to water, that would be it.

More little containers definitely helps.

When cycling around Australia my starting guideline was 1L for every 20km and 2L for an overnight. The longest gap I had between known water stops was 286km from Roebuck Roadhouse to Sandfire Roadhouse in the Great Sandy Desert near Broome. So I ended up with 16L of water: (a) 2 x 3L bladders on my Camelbak (b) 2L for 3 bottles on the bike (c) a 4L Sea to Summit bag (d) two water bottles of 1L each and then (e) some extra bottles for another 2L. As it turned out I had an occasion or two of a passing motorist stopping to offer water - and also where I camped with some caravans beside the road. So I could have done with a lot less but I wasn't sure and better safe than sorry. Normally in the outback I had 8-9L of water with me but then got more for the larger gaps.

The nice thing about a water bladder is you can fill them from a bathroom sink. Can’t always do that with a water bottle.

Pouring forth from my notes on the subject:
> Apidura Frame Pack Hydration Bladder
> Blackburn Outpost oversize bottle mount holds 1.5 liter Nathan
> Cnoc Vecto Bladder
> Platypus bladder (mentioned above)
> Rotopax Rollpax 1.5 gal water storage
> Widefoot LiterCage holds Nalgene 32oz wide mouth