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Only one break
Is is good or bad idea to ride with just one break, say with a front? Or related question instead two v-brakes have one disk brake on the front wheel?
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Originally Posted by vigur
Is is good or bad idea to ride with just one break, say with a front? Or related question instead two v-brakes have one disk brake on the front wheel?
V-brakes or disk brakes makes no difference. For safety reasons, you need two independent brake systems.
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Yes. Only one brake is not good. Although the front is the most important, 2 brakes front/rear are not redundant, I use them both.
Disc/V at the front/rear is fine.
Some people prefer discs because you won't overheat the rim and risk a tube blowout in a looong descent. If that happens in practice I don't know. Some say rim brakes are more serviceable are parts are more common. A disc brake requires tight tolerances between rotor and pad but isn't affected by disaligned wheels.
Disc/V at the front/rear is fine.
Some people prefer discs because you won't overheat the rim and risk a tube blowout in a looong descent. If that happens in practice I don't know. Some say rim brakes are more serviceable are parts are more common. A disc brake requires tight tolerances between rotor and pad but isn't affected by disaligned wheels.
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Originally Posted by vigur
Is is good or bad idea to ride with just one break, say with a front? Or related question instead two v-brakes have one disk brake on the front wheel?
I think you mean BRAKE and the only bike that's ok with a single brake is a fixed gear
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Originally Posted by supcom
This is not a good idea. The reason for two brakes is redundancy. If you have only a front brake, and the cable breaks or slips through the pinch bolt, you are in trouble.
V-brakes or disk brakes makes no difference. For safety reasons, you need two independent brake systems.
V-brakes or disk brakes makes no difference. For safety reasons, you need two independent brake systems.
In addition, with only a front brake, it's possible to skid the front tire if you're heavily loaded, or on sketchy surfaces, which is a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by andypants
Then again, I wouldn't want to go on a tour with only one break either.
When I read the subject line, that is exactly what I thought!One break, two breaks, three? Guess it depends on the terrain, load and how far you are going.
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How many breaks you take on your ride is up to you.
I would only ride with one brake on very flat terrain.
I would only ride with one brake on very flat terrain.
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Yeah, just in case you haven't realized how painfully obvious the answer to your question is, imagine this:
You're going down the biggest hill you'll be riding on (for me, this is probably something to do with the Alps). Not only is the grade in excess of 10%, but you're going downhill at over 40 MPH without a guard rail. Suddenly a fleet of soccer moms in SUVs start driving at random, hitting eachother, blocking your path. You must stop to avoid the fiasco, and stop fast, so you pull hard on your only brake, harder than you ever have, and suddenly the cable slips. You pull again, but you just go faster. Three seconds to decide whether you plummet off a cliff or get launched head first into an SUV. Two... One... ... This isn't choose your own adventure, you know... no takebacks.
You're going down the biggest hill you'll be riding on (for me, this is probably something to do with the Alps). Not only is the grade in excess of 10%, but you're going downhill at over 40 MPH without a guard rail. Suddenly a fleet of soccer moms in SUVs start driving at random, hitting eachother, blocking your path. You must stop to avoid the fiasco, and stop fast, so you pull hard on your only brake, harder than you ever have, and suddenly the cable slips. You pull again, but you just go faster. Three seconds to decide whether you plummet off a cliff or get launched head first into an SUV. Two... One... ... This isn't choose your own adventure, you know... no takebacks.
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I think it is a better question than it's getting an answer.
There is a purpose to a front and a rear brake, the front brake stops you when you really need to be stopped, the rear brake shares the loads, and there are loose terrain advantages where dragging the rear wheel helps straighten you out or on extrem terrain where the front brake may not be useable.
If one takes seriosly all weather stopping, cable slipeage, Suvs, wheel failure, etc... Then one is currently really running a single brake system with a pair of front and rear brakes. There is a reason why high performance motorcycles have double front brake systems. That is real redundency, in parallel, compared to having a forward and rear brake which is just serial brakes that do different things. That's why I am going for three brakes.
Three brakes can probably be done for a very similar weight compared to two brakes with in-line x-cross levers. That's a system that is widely popular and doesn't improve redundency or performance one whit.
There is a purpose to a front and a rear brake, the front brake stops you when you really need to be stopped, the rear brake shares the loads, and there are loose terrain advantages where dragging the rear wheel helps straighten you out or on extrem terrain where the front brake may not be useable.
If one takes seriosly all weather stopping, cable slipeage, Suvs, wheel failure, etc... Then one is currently really running a single brake system with a pair of front and rear brakes. There is a reason why high performance motorcycles have double front brake systems. That is real redundency, in parallel, compared to having a forward and rear brake which is just serial brakes that do different things. That's why I am going for three brakes.
Three brakes can probably be done for a very similar weight compared to two brakes with in-line x-cross levers. That's a system that is widely popular and doesn't improve redundency or performance one whit.
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^^^ +1
That's what I was saying. Two brakes are NOT redundant. Each have different purposes and I use them both. I run an interrupter cross lever for the front brake to relax on the tops.
Tandems often have a drum brake at the rear on top of two regular brakes. And that's not even redundant because it has a specific use on descents.
Hehe you could set up a bike with 4 brakes: 2 rims brakes and 2 disc or drum brakes. Like in here
That's what I was saying. Two brakes are NOT redundant. Each have different purposes and I use them both. I run an interrupter cross lever for the front brake to relax on the tops.
Tandems often have a drum brake at the rear on top of two regular brakes. And that's not even redundant because it has a specific use on descents.
Hehe you could set up a bike with 4 brakes: 2 rims brakes and 2 disc or drum brakes. Like in here
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
When I read the subject line, that is exactly what I thought!One break, two breaks, three? Guess it depends on the terrain, load and how far you are going.

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"I run an interrupter cross lever for the front brake to relax on the tops."
A lot of people like that. My preference (until I actually try it anyway
), is to run an extra lever on the tops and an extra brake on the front. Hardly any difference in weight vs. those who do run two top interupters. I have the hand positions covered and an extra brake system.
A lot of people like that. My preference (until I actually try it anyway
), is to run an extra lever on the tops and an extra brake on the front. Hardly any difference in weight vs. those who do run two top interupters. I have the hand positions covered and an extra brake system.
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run an extra lever on the tops and an extra brake on the front

What is the combination? Disc/drum + rim or V + caliper ? (this one seems though, one on each side of the fork
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Originally Posted by tuz
Yes. Only one brake is not good. Although the front is the most important, 2 brakes front/rear are not redundant, I use them both.
Disc/V at the front/rear is fine.
Some people prefer discs because you won't overheat the rim and risk a tube blowout in a looong descent. If that happens in practice I don't know. Some say rim brakes are more serviceable are parts are more common. A disc brake requires tight tolerances between rotor and pad but isn't affected by disaligned wheels.
Disc/V at the front/rear is fine.
Some people prefer discs because you won't overheat the rim and risk a tube blowout in a looong descent. If that happens in practice I don't know. Some say rim brakes are more serviceable are parts are more common. A disc brake requires tight tolerances between rotor and pad but isn't affected by disaligned wheels.
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You can do it ofcourse you'd be much better off with F&R brakes.
Probably not a good idea if you've got a loaded rig. Hard enough to stop as it is.
Probably not a good idea if you've got a loaded rig. Hard enough to stop as it is.
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"That's interesting, and very safe
What is the combination? Disc/drum + rim or V + caliper ? (this one seems though, one on each side of the fork
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The current project has a front fork disc and Paul Vs. I am using a Paul e lever for the disc.
https://www.paulcomp.com/frmbrklev.html
I find the disc brake really heavy, another time I would probably just go for a sidepull, afterall it is a backup.
What is the combination? Disc/drum + rim or V + caliper ? (this one seems though, one on each side of the fork
)"The current project has a front fork disc and Paul Vs. I am using a Paul e lever for the disc.
https://www.paulcomp.com/frmbrklev.html
I find the disc brake really heavy, another time I would probably just go for a sidepull, afterall it is a backup.
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I would probably just go for a sidepull
m going to forward this idea to Mythbusters
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NO ITS A REALLY BAD IDEA!!!!
Originally Posted by vigur
Is is good or bad idea to ride with just one break, say with a front? Or related question instead two v-brakes have one disk brake on the front wheel?







