2010 Surly LHT
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the bike made me do it
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2010 Surly LHT
Pics of the new LHT and the rest of the Surly's are posted on www.bicyclesmile.com check them out!
#3
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wow, you could fit a water bottle between the seat tube and rear tire.
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Another smart move from Surly making 26" wheels an option for all sizes of LHT. It doesn't effect me since I'd take a 54, but I'm glad they opened it up for larger riders as well.
Do you know if they made any changes to the component spec? The current LHT is pretty well spec'd as is, but I'd at least want better brakes if nothing else.
Do you know if they made any changes to the component spec? The current LHT is pretty well spec'd as is, but I'd at least want better brakes if nothing else.
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The thing that I like, is that surly actually LISTENED to all those customers saying give us 26" in > 54cm for the past year or two...
I mean, how many years did it take Trek to fix the gearing on the 520? 15? 20? I sorta lost track of the 520 specs between 1986-2000 or so... but I'm pretty sure they 'hybridized'* the 520 in the 90's right? Isn't that when the gearing got too high for a heavy load and 8% grade?
But Im most excited for all the 26" vs. 700 threads that are at this moment being conceived across the land... I cant wait to start suggesting 650C and 700D as the ULTIMATE touring wheel size!**
*ie made crappy- neither a good, fast road bike, but not a great LD touring bike either...
** just kidding. 26" reigns supreme.
I mean, how many years did it take Trek to fix the gearing on the 520? 15? 20? I sorta lost track of the 520 specs between 1986-2000 or so... but I'm pretty sure they 'hybridized'* the 520 in the 90's right? Isn't that when the gearing got too high for a heavy load and 8% grade?
But Im most excited for all the 26" vs. 700 threads that are at this moment being conceived across the land... I cant wait to start suggesting 650C and 700D as the ULTIMATE touring wheel size!**
*ie made crappy- neither a good, fast road bike, but not a great LD touring bike either...
** just kidding. 26" reigns supreme.
#14
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Because there are loads of 700c touring bikes in North America to choose from and if you go anywhere [incl North America] and need replacement parts for your touring bike 26" wheels are so much more widely available.
If you want 700c wheels on your touring bike you are not going to run out of options anytime soon!
If you want 700c wheels on your touring bike you are not going to run out of options anytime soon!
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you'd have to ask the person getting the 60cm frame. Seriously a 26"x1.5" tire is fat and comfy for unladen riding and feels quicker to accelerate than a similar sized 700c tire.. So for a commuter bike it's a fun combo of big tire cushion and small tire acceleration. For touring I like the tougher wheel and the same combo of fat tire choices but with less weight.
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Bikes: Surly LHT 52cm Nice Bicycle I think.
Pics of the new LHT and the rest of the Surly's are posted on www.bicyclesmile.com check them out!
#21
It does and almost looks like an XXL Bike Friday. I am 6'05" and this Sherpa is a great fit. I am also curious to see how Surly makes it work using smaller hoops. If I was starting from scratch, two things that might tip the scale toward the LHT are: The spoke holder and the seat post clamp. The Sherpa's seatpost binding bolt setup is ugly and doesn't inspire confidence.
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It does and almost looks like an XXL Bike Friday. I am 6'05" and this Sherpa is a great fit. I am also curious to see how Surly makes it work using smaller hoops. If I was starting from scratch, two things that might tip the scale toward the LHT are: The spoke holder and the seat post clamp. The Sherpa's seatpost binding bolt setup is ugly and doesn't inspire confidence.
#23
Larger frames with 26" wheels are going to look really funny - like a folder.
Surly should take it a step further and increase the rear spacing so you can fit a nice wide flange spacing, dishless rear hub. With Shimano mtb hubs you need ~143mm to do this. perhaps they could even bundle a custom rear hub and BB to go with this unconventional geometry.
They should go ahead and switch to disc brakes. If you're going to risk losing the 700c devotee market, why not go ahead and piss-off the canti lovers too? Route bosses for full housing run along top of DT and left CS.
I agree with previous poster, I can do without the spare spoke holder - and the pump peg, and I rarely use the chain hanger (always forget it's there).
Get rid of all the extraneous decaling (I vote a decal headbadge only). Include a decal sheet instead for the marketing-addicts.
IMO the colors seem to always be terrible. They're so consistently bad that the original pea green is now considered one of the best. The cherry red was nice too.
While I'm at this virtual redesign, get rid of the DT bosses, and move them to headtube sides (won't be a problem with disc brakes).
I think a larger diameter biaxially ovalized downtube would stiffen up the frame a good bit too, without much cost or weight penalty.
Water boss locations should be rethought a little too. Combined with a bottom clamp FD, it may be possible to fit 4 bottle bosses on the main triangle on larger frame sizes.
Closing idea - integrate rear rack into rear triangle design - save cost and weight. Come up with a better front rack design than the 1350g / $150 (with shipping) Nice Rack.
Surly should take it a step further and increase the rear spacing so you can fit a nice wide flange spacing, dishless rear hub. With Shimano mtb hubs you need ~143mm to do this. perhaps they could even bundle a custom rear hub and BB to go with this unconventional geometry.
They should go ahead and switch to disc brakes. If you're going to risk losing the 700c devotee market, why not go ahead and piss-off the canti lovers too? Route bosses for full housing run along top of DT and left CS.
I agree with previous poster, I can do without the spare spoke holder - and the pump peg, and I rarely use the chain hanger (always forget it's there).
Get rid of all the extraneous decaling (I vote a decal headbadge only). Include a decal sheet instead for the marketing-addicts.
IMO the colors seem to always be terrible. They're so consistently bad that the original pea green is now considered one of the best. The cherry red was nice too.
While I'm at this virtual redesign, get rid of the DT bosses, and move them to headtube sides (won't be a problem with disc brakes).
I think a larger diameter biaxially ovalized downtube would stiffen up the frame a good bit too, without much cost or weight penalty.
Water boss locations should be rethought a little too. Combined with a bottom clamp FD, it may be possible to fit 4 bottle bosses on the main triangle on larger frame sizes.
Closing idea - integrate rear rack into rear triangle design - save cost and weight. Come up with a better front rack design than the 1350g / $150 (with shipping) Nice Rack.
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