Average cost per day biking across the US
#76
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I think that if you decide to scrape the bottom of the barrel and travel as cheaply as humanly possible, bicycling will always be cheaper per mile than driving. At the other end it just depends on how much you want to spend. Same with sailing vs motor boating. The lowtech option will always be cheaper is you are trying to be cheap.
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I think you need to understand what is being objected to. As I understand the posts, what some like myself do not support is the use of private (and possibly public) property, where it is otherwise not legal to camp, without permission. I don't hear anyone saying we should "herded" or forced into campgrounds and motels to sleep in state-approved beds. Perhaps you should re-read some of the earlier posts.
If you are advocating that you should be able to make use of others' private property simply because you want to, I would like to hear your reasoning behind that. Until then, I am going to walk across the street to the Four Seaons Hotel and demand that they give me a room for free, or at least let me sleep in the lobby, since their room rates are very restrictive. And my gas tank is almost empty so I am going to demand a free fill up. I will let you know how that all works out for me.
If you are advocating that you should be able to make use of others' private property simply because you want to, I would like to hear your reasoning behind that. Until then, I am going to walk across the street to the Four Seaons Hotel and demand that they give me a room for free, or at least let me sleep in the lobby, since their room rates are very restrictive. And my gas tank is almost empty so I am going to demand a free fill up. I will let you know how that all works out for me.
Most bicycle tourists I've read of, spoken to, or known have had a pretty similar ethic in regards to stealth camping. You wait until dark or near dark, you find unimproved or unposted land, you set up just as much as you need to get you through the night, and you pack up and obscure any trace you where ever there in the morning. Most folks, myself included, won't even eat at a stealth campsite. Dinner is eaten further up the road, breakfast is further down the road. There is no fire, no litter, and in nearly all cases no one ever knows or cares. Sadly even that is illegal in many places, because others will abuse it, so yes I may at times be breaking a law. It's a risk no greater than dog attacks, nosy bears, car collisions, and dangerous people.
I'm not trying to take anything away from another person. If someone has built up an area for public or private use, I don't advocate using it without permission. I also don't approve of crossing fences or posted warnings unless you absolutely need, for your own safety, to stop. Excluding those listed locations still leaves one with many options for free camping. What I do believe in, and advocate, is that bicycle tourists, by virtue of already being a bit outside of the norm, should not be so quick to judge their fellows for not wanting to follow the Standard American Vacation Plan. I think your comment about demanding lodging and gas was childish and unnecessary, but you probably already realize that.
#78
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Breakfast is always oatmeal, lightweight and easy to carry. Dried fruit is a good way to add flavor. I also bring lots of walnuts and almonds for snacks.
Lunch is the biggest variable, depending upon the route, maybe I'll run across a store so for culinary excitement, might grab a burrito or sandwich or whatever. Also, if I do find a store during the day, I'll try to buy some fresh produce. Green beans, broccoli, carrots and other hard veggies will usually survive a few hours as luggage. Apples are also on my list.
Before you go, take what you want to bring and actually cook it. Remember too that at the end of the day, you might be tired and hungry and not want to spend 45 minutes cooking.





