Rack and No Eyelets
 

So, I am looking to mount a rack to my Bob Jackson Vigorelli. There are no eyelets for mounting a rack and no rear brake. I already have a rack from an old bike, so all I need to find is the hardware needed to mount the current rack.

I have found some p-clamps for mounting to the seat stays, and I found a Tubus quick release mount for mounting at the drop-outs. However, the quick release mount was expensive and all I need is the hardware and not the quick release. $45 is a bit too much for hardware. Anyway, does anyone have some suggestions for mounting to the axle of a Phil Wood rear fixed hub?

If you have a different suggestion for mounting a rack or maybe some other way of carrying my gear then let me know.

EDIT: One thing I just realized; with an axle mount I would have to remove the rack to change a tire. I don't like this idea at all.

Seat post mounted rear rack?

Brad

I thought about that, but most seemed to only support 15 lbs. My hiking gear weighs less than 15 lbs, but then I would need to carry some extra things specific to cycling so I was not convinced that would work. I don't really know, since I have never done any touring. I am just starting to plan things now, so...

Solution +1 bike
Hang up the track fixie and get another bike with dropout eyelets
and thus ready to mount a rack.

.. of course you can always tow a trailer ..

It is not a track fixie, I just chose to have it made with out a rear brake and obviously without eyelets. The bike was never intended for the track and won't be ridden on the track. I am going to ride this touring, so how about being more helpful. There have been people that have ridden fixed gear across the US, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same?

Vigorelli is the location/name of a Velodrome in Italy,
velodromes are tracks for bicycle races.

Well a fixie is the wrong tool for touring. , Good luck then .
still say get a 2 wheel trailer , a Burly Nomad is a put everything in it solution.
http://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...er-p-1310.html

you attach the trailer with a piece held down with your left axle nut.http://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...le-p-1251.html

or this piece that uses the left rear triangle [URL="http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-classic-hitch-p-1253.html"[/URL]

Fietsbob was being helpfull. Its a good suggestion. I seldom use my sports car for hauling hay.

Yes lots of folks have ridden long distances on fixed gear, I have done it. I also chose a frame with lots of eyelets to do it on.

Now to be "helpfull".
If your load is fairly light, then four p clips, top and bottom will work, Ive seen it done. I would carry a spare clip and hardware. If the rack you have is made to fit the center of a brake bridge, then look for another rack. A new rack is a better idea than an old one anyway(unless you really know that it is a strong unabused rack), as rack failure sucks.

This bike doesn't give you a lot of options. Just because other people have done something doesn't make it a good idea. I hope you at least have a front brake on this thing.

If you insist, the most viable option would be a trailer.

I missed that fietsbob said the two wheel trailer, so I apologize. He was being helpful. I use to have a BOB trailer that I used with my old fixed gear, but I sold it because it seemed a bit too unwielding. However, this problem wouldn't be as bad with a two wheel trailer.

Now how would a p-clip work on the bottom of the rack. That seems like the best option for me, but I am not sure how that would work. Yes, I have a front brake.

I wouldn't trust a p-clip to bear a load (or at least, I would prefer a seatpost-mount rack for loads that I would trust a p-clip to bear). P-clips will break, which is not so big of a deal when you have two of them holding the top of the rack in place. Could be not-so-much fun if one of the bottom ones break with a serious load.

Yeah, I think I might just bight the bullet and buy the QR kit, but get rid of the QR part of it. I really was hoping someone knew of something that just had the hardware to connect the bottom to the axle.

http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html mount to the axle and looks capable of using clamps 0n the seat tube. My OMM is similar to the Red Rock and could mount on the axle with a longer QR.

Brad

Yeah, that just reminded me that I will have to been the rack just to get it to fit the 120mm spacing.

EDIT: That seat post rack is looking better and better.

EDIT2: Except seat post racks move the center of gravity higher and tend to move around a bit. hmmm.

Okay, what are the drawbacks to just a front rack? I think I can easily find a front rack that doesn't need eyelets.

I don't think that this will work since it is designed for the size of the quick release rod not the standard axle.

Okay, so what about this. I can always use a p-clip to mount to where the brake normally mounts. But, then again the axle mount might be a problem since it is probably for quick release.

EDIT: I emailed Axiom to see if this rack would work.

Its a QBP item your local shop can get one..

short chainstays will have your feet hit the bags.

one of these ? http://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_416/travoy.html
attaches to your seatpost, but the wheels carry your load.

Maby I should have said that clips on the bottom is the cheapest way to go, not the best. That said, I have bought a few bikes at the thrift shops with this setup, and seen it on a few as well. I have even done it myself on a front fork with no eyelets and had no problems(though I fabbed the clips myself, they were sturdyer than what you can buy at the bike shop).

The tubus stay mounting clamps look much sturdier than p-clamps.

Unnecessary suffering is not heroic.

I don't care about being heroic. I just like to ride fixed. In fact, I sold my other bikes so that I could have this one built for me. However, with the rack frustration I am emailing them to see if the rack mounts can now be added. Hopefully they aren't too far along in the process. I am kind of thinking they are since it is suppose to be down within the next couple weeks.

You could also explore rackless options:
http://www.revelatedesigns.com/layou...velate-132.jpg

I actually thought about this some. What fits in the Frame Pack? In fact, I really like this idea, since I have to buy bags anyway.

Have you considered the Extrawheel?

Small stuff fits in the frame bag - tools, water bladder, food, camera- because you don't want to be hitting it with your knees, but these hold a lot of stuff.

Bulkier stuff goes on the bars or in the seat bag. Or you could mix and match and try a post mounted rack & bag with light/bulky stuff and a smaller frame bag with the heavier items in.

Yes, I am trying to avoid trailers. I really think I am going to go the rackless route. It simplifies things a lot in my opinion, which is the whole point to fixed.
Do you mind giving some more info on the bags like brand, etc.

EDIT: Did some more research and this makes sense; Frame bags are generally custom made, so I guess I will just make one. I am still interested in what seat bag that is and how they mount everything to the handle bars.

Well, just got my email from Bob Jackson and the bike is already being painted, so rackless it is.

look up Epic designs and Carousel bag works. I think there's another one out there, but the name escapes me.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/...99be9901_b.jpg

Old Man Mountain racks work on bikes with no rack mounts. I've been using my oldest OMM rack for ~10yrs and it's going strong. They'll work with disc brakes and just about any odd frame feature. Worth the investment as you can move it from bike to bike as needed. Also made by a couple bike nuts in the US if that matters to you.

http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/...RearRacks.html

Well, now I can find some good pictures and I will just make all my own bags. Well, I might buy a handle bar bag, but... Thank you for your help.