I find that's stretching it bit. I've understood "fully loaded" mostly to imply carrying camping and cooking gear for your trip, and that your bike LOOKS fully loaded = lots of crap rather than an ultralite set up, for instance.

I'm think I'm starting to understand. The OP is riding this tour HIMSELF, he's not trying to get anyone to go with him, and he's preparing publicity materials to get other people to donate to his charity.

There's a language barrier, I think, even though we are both speaking English, we aren't having a very easy time understanding each other. peace, out.

George, what do you mean by "everything"? Is that everything necessary for camping or is that everything needed if you decide to stop and play around of golf or does "everything" include the kitchen sink? It could ya know! I find the word "everything" a bit ambiguous. Could you change "everything" to, "my camping gear", I would like it better if you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




Just messing with you George, I couldn't resist! What you have sounds good.

theres really nothing to understand I am going on a BYCLE trip 50 miles, 25 miles there camping for the night and 25 miles back, call it whatever you want a bike trip, a cycle tour, a camping night out, going camping, a bike ride, whatever, use your own injenuity don't even think about, some people might even call it a short tour on a bike, a Sunday ride, going for a spin, out with the bike, get the drift
I have the answer I wanted
thanks george ps its good to know someone has a good sense of humor DW99

I never really figured out what this was about, but if Valygrl is correct in her read of this, I hope you get plenty of donations.

Have a great ride.

I tell you what DW99
You Had me going there for a while
I was beginning to throw the towel in

Hi staehpj1 I never really figured out myself

Thanks DW99 my head is away with the fairies

nah don't give up george i've been getting hassle from these dudes for years lol, what your doing is fantastic.
as i said as long as your not looking for to much i will donate a few shillings, just send me the details your address and i'll post it on ,or i might even take a spin around carlinfort next or even this week weather pemitting and maybe meet up with you.
let me know.

You are a good sport George!

Sounds great Anto I have a nice VW van which I can call and take you down I will have to work out when, working tomorrow and have to go to Glasgow on the 6th to see my Daughter in Hospital back on the 10th so maybe the following weekend
how does that sound

Don' be giving a big head now DW99, you lads have all these smilling faces I have to take time to no how to work this Forum

george i would normally drive to the ballymac hotel park up there cycle to carlinfort o meath/ newry back to hotel, but if you have a better route then i could drive nearer newry. just give me direction and when you want to do this mind you it will be a nice leisure spin no racing i'm well past that

If you are trying to market something I wouldn't use the word "survive." It can suggest a bare existence. Also, if that were an accurate definition, it would exclude anyone who resupplies (e.g., buys groceries during the trip, eats out during the trip) during a FLBT.

Anto If you like I can pick you up at home, take you to newry and the next morning just head for Newcastle only 25 miles stay the night and back the next day, if you like you can drive to my home in newry stay the night have a bit of crack and next morning head for Newcastle camp that night and back to my house next day, I went out on the towpath yesterday did 25 miles gee was I struggling how was you 50 miler yesterday

Hi indyfabz the joke is over

Hi George. I prefer panniers, but my data is not based on a single variable trial. My first long tour with my Bob was on my old (1992) Nashbar tourer. It was a 21-speed with Biopace chainrings. I put a 24-tooth granny on it, but I don't think the cassette had a very big low. I pulled the Bob over the North Cascades Highway, and it felt like I was pulling an anchor. I kept trying to shift to a lower gear and there simply wasn't one.

Before my next tour the following year I bought a new bike, new racks, and new panniers - a whole new rig. I was very happy to get back to racks and panniers. On that tour I went over another pass and felt like the low gear I had was sufficient - I wasn't searching for a lower one, and I wasn't suffering.

Another issue with the Bob is that I had to carry an extra tube. The Bob's tube was Schrader and my bike's tubes were Presta, so when I wanted to top off the tire pressure I had to switch the nozzle on my pump - just a bit annoying.

Since my comparison of the Bob vs. panniers was on different bikes, it's not very scientific, but I prefer panniers. Having said that, I pulled a Bob on my tour on the Great Divide last summer because my new 29er had issues with installing racks. The Bob allowed me to do the tour. I think a Bob is a great thing in that it can allow someone to tour on a bike that isn't set up for racks.

Hi BigBlueToe great info thank, its just that back in 06 I was thinking of buying a Bob, when I saw two dutch people pulling a Bob each, it was a tour around lough Neagh in the North of Ireland, when I met them, they thought that the Bob trailer was the best thing ever, but I was thinking that it would be like pulling, as you say an Anchor, Im glad I didnt spend the dosh

george when are you thinking of doing the nights camping.i could drive to your house the morning of the tour we could head off camp the night then head to your pad the folling day (your wife is a soft woman) hah. but listen we should meet for a spin before we do anything.
my 50 miler went well i ended up in the fast group but found plenty of shelter behind a yetti ah a old dog for the hard road lol. got droppen but only in the last mile yes a good day out, my training will have to start this week for my tour of ireland looks like it going to take ten days ,the fellclub lads want to see the best of ireland so i had better get the miles in.

george if your interested in trying out a bob i have a copy of a bob brand new . if you like you can take it try it out .
a lot of people love them i would rather have the panniers.

OK anto go to FLBT web email me you number if that the best way make arangement for Thu/Fri this week

no anto I was only thinking of a Bob way back in 06 I would think they are heavy on the hills

anto can you email me your number

you have a pm.

cant get the email to work