this is a must watch vimeo.
10-24-13 | 09:18 PM
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I just started watching it again for the second time, and I noticed that one of the filmmakers has the same last name, must be a relative, a niece or something.
About the "look at a girls mother" comment--you know, we dont have an idea of the context of the conversation they were having when he said that, I love films and filmmaking, and realize that documentarys often have a 10 to 1 shooting to final product ratio, so they may have been talking about more people being overweight, I dunno. The editing didnt allow the whole conversation to be shown, so we only saw that bit.
anyway, back to the viewing...
I really enjoyed seeing that again. And what I enjoyed the most was his "joie de vivre" his love of life and of being on a bike.
And yes, after seeing the film I took the time to read the webpage with various tributes to him, and it was written at some point that it was in fact his niece who is one of the women who made the film.
That was great that her and her friend did this project, he was quite a character and they did a good job of capturing his way of life and personality.
About the "look at a girls mother" comment--you know, we dont have an idea of the context of the conversation they were having when he said that, I love films and filmmaking, and realize that documentarys often have a 10 to 1 shooting to final product ratio, so they may have been talking about more people being overweight, I dunno. The editing didnt allow the whole conversation to be shown, so we only saw that bit.
anyway, back to the viewing...
I really enjoyed seeing that again. And what I enjoyed the most was his "joie de vivre" his love of life and of being on a bike.
And yes, after seeing the film I took the time to read the webpage with various tributes to him, and it was written at some point that it was in fact his niece who is one of the women who made the film.
That was great that her and her friend did this project, he was quite a character and they did a good job of capturing his way of life and personality.
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10-24-13 | 10:36 PM
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Yes, very enjoyable video. Social norms are all about not making other people uncomfortable. "Self-righteous" is a current term for some of those who ignore these norms. It obscures the relationship between the offender and what is true under GAR (Generally Accepted Reality). Plaine was not shy about talking about his views, which were correct. His behavior was as consistent with his views as he could manage. Very few people have both these attributes, which is what makes this video so fascinating.
His steadfast and correct views may also have contributed to his demise. Notice that he never runs lights, not even in the dark or fog. He simply doesn't have them, no doubt because he abhors the disposable, including batteries. In the night time interviews, the light comes from the videographer. The driver who hit him may truly not have seen him.
This ignores a small problem: it would have been impossible for him to live and do what he did without continually violating some of his principles. He ate packaged goods, for instance. So using batteries was on one side of the line, but packaged cookies were on the other. One has to draw a line somewhere. His was much closer to his ideals than the line that most of us draw.
He will not die. So many people will remember him.
His steadfast and correct views may also have contributed to his demise. Notice that he never runs lights, not even in the dark or fog. He simply doesn't have them, no doubt because he abhors the disposable, including batteries. In the night time interviews, the light comes from the videographer. The driver who hit him may truly not have seen him.
This ignores a small problem: it would have been impossible for him to live and do what he did without continually violating some of his principles. He ate packaged goods, for instance. So using batteries was on one side of the line, but packaged cookies were on the other. One has to draw a line somewhere. His was much closer to his ideals than the line that most of us draw.
He will not die. So many people will remember him.
10-25-13 | 07:37 AM
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Wow....choice vid.
Inspiring.
Thanks for posting, antokelly
Inspiring.
Thanks for posting, antokelly
10-26-13 | 01:50 PM
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That saying about 'if you want to know what a girl will look in thirty years, check out her mother' was a common saying in my youth and I'm sure I've said it myself many times.
If that makes me 'sexist' to someone then they're being 'ageist'.
Great video.
If that makes me 'sexist' to someone then they're being 'ageist'.
Great video.
07-01-14 | 02:29 PM
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I really enjoyed seeing that again. And what I enjoyed the most was his "joie de vivre" his love of life and of being on a bike.
I wonder what is that bike he is riding? I know it is a giant but I can't figure out the model. I would have expected an old guy like this to be mounted on a steel bike with DT shifters.
He reminds me of Jobst Brandt a lot.
07-04-14 | 03:12 PM
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got to watch this film excellent, poor old chap was killed a year after it was made while out cycling.hope you enjoy .
got to watch this film excellent, poor old chap was killed a year after it was made while out cycling.hope you enjoy .
07-04-14 | 04:12 PM
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07-04-14 | 10:01 PM
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Last year when I looked up the local news articles about his death, they only mentioned that the accident he was involved in was with some farm equipment --truck, tractor, who knows. Poor guy died thats the bottom line without knowing more gruesome details, of which we don't really need to know.
07-05-14 | 01:01 PM
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Anytime somebody dies in a bicycle accident due to not wearing a helmet that needs to be publicized in order to raise awareness of the need for head protection. "Need to know" is a very relative term.
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