I got the Ortlieb Bike Packer Plus to go along with my Ortlieb Panniers. It is not bad as a backpack.

The issue I am having is converting back and forth. The clips on the backpack side don't want to come out of the pannier very easy. It was stiff enough the last time I though it was going to break them trying to get them out.

Anyone find a solution?
Do they get easier with wear?

Thanks

<Guess> dont own the whole Identical kit .. just 3 sets of the panniers

the inserts you need for the rack are tight around the back pack adapter pad kit ?

or you don't pull the release strap quite enough .. Or

The top is fine. The backpack side has fabric loops. No issues. Now that I think about it, I could make this a backpack with external frame if I wanted......thinking thinking thinking...

The bottom is the issue. There are plastic clips. They are really tight.

I don't use mine very often, but I never broke the clips. They get pretty tight though. I mostly use the shoulder strap, as it's much easier to pack around on the bike since I leave it attached to the bag, just tuck it out of the way so it doesn't get in my spokes. If I was carrying the pack more than a few blocks I might change my mind.

I have a set of Bike Packer Plus panniers and I cannot figure out what the OP is talking about. He got them to go with his Ortlieb panniers? They ARE Ortlieb panniers. He uses it/them (?) as a backpack? How do you do that? Mine came with shoulder straps that simply clip on. What clips? What is "the backpack side?"

https://www.therandonneeshop.com/prod...ackpack_system

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...nnier-backpack

Thanks. The part about buying the Bike Packer Plus to go with his panniers didn't make any sense to me. Now I get it. He got the backpack system to turn (presumably) a Bike Packer Plus into a backpack.

ah the bottom of the bag plastic edge guard , is where the bottom of the carry system snap goes ..

https://www.ortliebusa.com/prodInfo.asp?pid=205&cid=2

You are correct.

Yes. I think it is a design flaw. The clips go into the pannier. They should just attach to the back pack system.

If they had a fabric loop, the bag would attach to the pack system the same as the bike.

So far I can not recommend this setup, ....but I am glad I spent the money to try it out. I should be able to ride with the pack system on my back (weighs nothing), then put the pannier on it when I get to the museum (end destination).

If you are looking to do some serious Krav Maga, this system will not work for you....Get a pack that sticks to you and forget about the pannier.

tell the company say via
Kathrin Weinmann <kaw@ortlieb.de>
I cannot do a thing ..

of course you can always start your own company