Looking for Formulas and Numbers for Ride Nutrition
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Looking for Formulas and Numbers for Ride Nutrition
I have been searching the net for some solid numbers and formulas so that I carry the proper amount of nutrition during longer rides (40+ miles). So far I found one decent site and the rest were either too vague or were selling products.
What I am looking for is:
1. What is the starting amount of calories that the body usually hold in glycogen and blood sugar?
2. At what point is the body store considered depleted and you hit "bonk" or as other describe it, the wall?
3. How much fat and protein can the body convert to energy per hour?
4. After consumption of carbs, proteins and fats during a ride, how long does it take before it hits the blood steam?
I know that roughly I burn about 500 calories per ten miles on my rides. I'm not going to debate this number and I will ignore anyone that does. 2000 calories burned at 200# in 40 miles road cycling with hills, wind, a stop every 5 miles for traffic lights/regroups etc is certainly reasonable (if not on the low end) than using some formula that some nitwit uses at a velodrome.
What I have found so far is this site:
https://www.momsteam.com/nutrition/en...sked-questions
According to that site, I would need to consume 2160 (360 * 6 hours) calories during a century. I have heard various people say that the body stores about 1800 calories in blood sugar and muscle glycogen. 1800 + 2200 (rounded) = 4000 calories of the 5000 I will burn during a century. Does that mean my body is converting 1000 calories of body fat into energy?
Does anyone have any good links with numbers and formulas?
What I am looking for is:
1. What is the starting amount of calories that the body usually hold in glycogen and blood sugar?
2. At what point is the body store considered depleted and you hit "bonk" or as other describe it, the wall?
3. How much fat and protein can the body convert to energy per hour?
4. After consumption of carbs, proteins and fats during a ride, how long does it take before it hits the blood steam?
I know that roughly I burn about 500 calories per ten miles on my rides. I'm not going to debate this number and I will ignore anyone that does. 2000 calories burned at 200# in 40 miles road cycling with hills, wind, a stop every 5 miles for traffic lights/regroups etc is certainly reasonable (if not on the low end) than using some formula that some nitwit uses at a velodrome.
What I have found so far is this site:
https://www.momsteam.com/nutrition/en...sked-questions
According to that site, I would need to consume 2160 (360 * 6 hours) calories during a century. I have heard various people say that the body stores about 1800 calories in blood sugar and muscle glycogen. 1800 + 2200 (rounded) = 4000 calories of the 5000 I will burn during a century. Does that mean my body is converting 1000 calories of body fat into energy?
Does anyone have any good links with numbers and formulas?
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2. At what point is the body store considered depleted and you hit "bonk" or as other describe it, the wall?
3. How much fat and protein can the body convert to energy per hour?
4. After consumption of carbs, proteins and fats during a ride, how long does it take before it hits the blood steam?
What I have found so far is this site:
https://www.momsteam.com/nutrition/en...sked-questions
https://www.momsteam.com/nutrition/en...sked-questions
According to that site, I would need to consume 2160 (360 * 6 hours) calories during a century.
I have heard various people say that the body stores about 1800 calories in blood sugar and muscle glycogen. 1800 + 2200 (rounded) = 4000 calories of the 5000 I will burn during a century. Does that mean my body is converting 1000 calories of body fat into energy?
Does anyone have any good links with numbers and formulas?
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Formulas are pretty much useless for this. You can't replenish during the ride what you burn during the ride- you will get sick. So you need to learn how much you can eat. 250 cal/hr is a good start for most people. It'll change with changing conditions- heat and dehydration both make it easier to feel ill.
The more trained you are the better you get at burning fat. That means it takes longer to bonk. You bonk because while the body can run on fat, albeit at a lower power output, the brain only runs on glycogen. When your blood sugar runs low you get slow and stupid. It won't hurt you but it's not pleasant. If you do it enough times you will learn to recognize when the bonk is coming on and will be better able to function while bonked.
The more trained you are the better you get at burning fat. That means it takes longer to bonk. You bonk because while the body can run on fat, albeit at a lower power output, the brain only runs on glycogen. When your blood sugar runs low you get slow and stupid. It won't hurt you but it's not pleasant. If you do it enough times you will learn to recognize when the bonk is coming on and will be better able to function while bonked.
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They have exactly what you requested. Plus more.
They have exactly what you requested. Plus more.
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