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Old 08-11-14, 07:33 AM
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Cyclist Kicks Another Cyclist Off Bike

"Please help this cyclist find the person in the video to bring him to justice. If you have any information that can lead to identifying the person on the video will be much appreciated. The incident happened in London at around 5:15 pm in front of the embankment station on Wednesday August 6th 2014."

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wow that is one cold punk
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Looks like the dude with the camera forced the other guy towards a parked bus......THEN he magicaly goes down.

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Originally Posted by Booger1
Looks like the dude with the camera forced the other guy towards a parked bus......THEN he magicaly goes down.
Nah, looked like Mr BMX tried to overtake on the wrong side and came up short when the bus got too close. Camera guy had to swerve right to avoid being hit by Mr BMX as he swerved to avoid the bus.
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Yeah,maybe.....
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Originally Posted by RPK79
Nah, looked like Mr BMX tried to overtake on the wrong side and came up short when the bus got too close. Camera guy had to swerve right to avoid being hit by Mr BMX as he swerved to avoid the bus.
+1. The incident looks like it was totally the BMX guy's fault to me.
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Originally Posted by Booger1
Looks like the dude with the camera forced the other guy towards a parked bus......THEN he magicaly goes down.
The BMX dude had no business 1. trying to pass on the left and 2. trying to do so in a bus stop area with a parked bus fast approaching. He also had no justification to commit the overt act of assault and/or battery.
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Let me just clarify that you can't force another person into a parked bus by holding your line.
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Still image.

That is a jail-able offense for sure.

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Doesn't he pass on the right, and kick the front wheel on the way by? That's how it looks to me.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
Doesn't he pass on the right, and kick the front wheel on the way by? That's how it looks to me.
Yes but the BMX guy initially tries, unsuccessfully, to pass on the left while heading toward a parked bus in a bus stop zone.
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That's messed up.
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not saying it okay to hit another


buuuuuut


he totally just blocked his way and even steered to the left



and he locked his front, not bmx-guys's foot
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Originally Posted by alexaschwanden
That's messed up.
^ all the way around
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Old 08-11-14, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by italktocats
not saying it okay to hit another


buuuuuut


he totally just blocked his way and even steered to the left
What was he expected to do, slam on his brakes for some dickhead surreptitiously attempting to pass unsafely on the wrong side?

and he locked his front, not bmx-guys's foot
Nope, totally wrong. Look again.
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Originally Posted by italktocats
he totally just blocked his way and even steered to the left
Wrong. First,he said he wasn't looking because he was looking for cars. The BMX rider came up his inside,which is totally the wrong way to pass someone.

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Let me just clarify that you can't force another person into a parked bus by holding your line.
This.

Curious why he didn't chase down the BMX rider.
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Originally Posted by J.C. Koto
The BMX dude had no business 1. trying to pass on the left and 2. trying to do so in a bus stop area with a parked bus fast approaching. He also had no justification to commit the overt act of assault and/or battery.


you need to ride in a busy area more often.

both people are tools in this video.
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Originally Posted by dynaryder
Curious why he didn't chase down the BMX rider.
He explained in the youtube comments. It was written in somewhat broken English, so I've changed a few words to clarify what I think he meant:

"My chain came [off] and the cyclist [behind me tried] to catch him [but] couldn't [because the BMX'er] jumped [the curb] and ran up the stairs in waterloo bridge."
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Originally Posted by acidfast7


you need to ride in a busy area more often.

both people are tools in this video.
You are wrong. The only demonstrable "tool" in the video was the dingus on the BMX. The guy who got jacked didn't do anything even remotely wrong.
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The BMX rider will certainly make a fine BMW driver some day.
The other guy however is sure clueless about his surroundings. I gather he didn't say SMIDSY or sorry.
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
The other [videoing] guy however is sure clueless about his surroundings. I gather he didn't say SMIDSY or sorry.
I'm sure he didn't since he was probably unaware that the BMX rider had even tried to pass him on the wrong side until he looked at the video later. If I'm approaching a vehicle ahead of me that's blocking the curb lane my concentration will be on making sure that I can safely move out into traffic without being hit. So in the situation here with the bus at the curb I'd be looking over my right shoulder checking for traffic from the rear before moving right to get around the bus. No way would I be able to see another cyclist pulling around me on my left (wrong) side while my head is turned around to the right (and in busy urban traffic there's so much noise I doubt that the BMX cyclist would be heard either unless he chose to announce his presence - which he didn't).

The only reason we know about the attempted wrong-side pass is because the camera was aimed straight ahead - but that's not where the cyclist's eyes would have been pointed in that situation.
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We're getting too distracted by "who kicked who".

The first mistake here was that road bike guy was losing the Great Race to a BMXer. If he'd used his pedals none of this would have happened.
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Originally Posted by Saving Hawaii
We're getting too distracted by "who kicked who".

The first mistake here was that road bike guy was losing the Great Race to a BMXer. If he'd used his pedals none of this would have happened.
Uh, according to the video, the BMX guy had been passed ~100yds back (at the start of the recording), back when the BMX guy was doing nearly 0mph. The BMX guy came up from behind, along the bus parking area, but got shorted when his attempt at an inside pass failed due to him coming upon the parked bus sooner than he'd anticipated. He then jetted from behind on the right-hand side of the road guy, taking out his front wheel.

I don't see any "great race" going on here. All that's clearly evident is a cyclist coming up from behind twice, the first instance resulting in him cutting himself off at the tail end of the parked bus, and the last instance of which resulted in him assaulting the other guy.

Hard to blame the lead cyclist, when he's always been in the lead and (likely) wasn't aware of the trailing guy's feelings of having been offended or slighted. The BMX guy knew darned well what he was perpetrating.
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I'm just asking... I didn't see the video and its late, I'm not going to see it tonight, but... all this "wrong side" stuff... what is the wrong or right side to pass someone on in London? Is that being factored in all the armchair quaterbacking?
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