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Old 10-14-13, 11:01 PM   #151
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Awesome, can't wait to get started this spring.
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Old 10-15-13, 09:07 AM   #152
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hopeful:
-360w@20m, 410w@5m (315/355 end of season)
-top 10 provincial TT
-win something
-push sprint to 1500w (been stuck at 1200-1300 all year)
-use winter track riding for base training and not racing


probably:
-raise 20m to 340
-upgrade to 3 (had the points this year but didn't take it)
-podium a road race (not counting fondos)
-lose 5lbs before season starts (190@6'4 currently)
-race in the US more (you guys have more fun)
-sub 19min at club TT (8.5mile course)
-find something to cross train with this winter (perhaps xc skiing?)
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Old 10-15-13, 08:07 PM   #153
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Crush, kill, destroy.
Those days are behind me, for a while, in the literal sense.

However, I have purchased a power meter for my MTB, and will be looking to get back to 5w/kg for an hour. 5.5w/kg for 20min.

Or more. This will, for better or worse, require some road riding/racing.
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Old 10-16-13, 04:18 AM   #154
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Mine are fairly modest, but it will be only my 2nd full year racing.

- Podium a Cat 4 race

- Finish with the pack in the local 1/2/3 training race series

- Top 10 in a Collegiate B race (I'm also in the ACCC, I was moderately competitive in C last year but I've gotten stronger)

- Do a TT without bringing shame to my family

- Race 25 times or more (easy for some, but I'm going to be very busy this year)

- Do a sub- 4:40 century (not racing, but I did my first century last weekend at 5:03 with 2,500' elevation for 106 miles, so I think that's realistic)

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Old 10-16-13, 09:34 AM   #155
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build huge base -

start cat5

podium something.

don't crash.
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Old 10-16-13, 10:08 AM   #156
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I would like to win a Masters open race.

A stretch, for sure, since we usually race with the same guys who are winning the local P/1 races the same day.

But; I did get a 2nd this year so it's not totally delusional.
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Old 10-16-13, 01:06 PM   #157
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- Win local 3 day Tour
- Increase FTP -> no powermeter, but getting one ASAP
- To go along with the above mention; more structured workouts
- Cat 3 Upgrade by end of season (I've been racing triathlons for 5 years and this year switching focus to cycling)
- HAVE FUN
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Old 10-16-13, 05:11 PM   #158
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I don't post in the 41 much, and am mostly a track rider - but next year will be my first that will be 'aimed' more at the road.

-Podium a 'Youth' crit
-Podium a 4th cat crit
-Get enough points for 3rd cat (road)
-Win the regional track league's pursuit nights (about 5 in total each season)
-Top 5 in regional track league overall

Should be possible - I got a near miss on a youth podium last year (crit) and came 16th of 40 riders overall in the track league - only attending less than half of the events and winning one event each night when I did show up.

Outlandish goals:
-Podium track league overall
-Win a crit
-Get some attention from British Cycling, POSSIBLY getting noticed by the Development Squad...

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Old 10-17-13, 07:50 AM   #159
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Nothing outlandish:

1. Cat 3 upgrade

2. Don’t fall into the trap of so much training that riding isn’t fun.
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Don't kid yourself that it can't be taken too far.
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Old 10-17-13, 09:32 AM   #162
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Don't kid yourself that it can't be taken too far.
I'm still new enough that I am in the honeymoon phase with cycling/training. I am hoping that I have the self discipline to take some time off this winter!
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Old 10-17-13, 09:42 AM   #163
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Don't kid yourself that it can't be taken too far.

As all previous arguments have indicated, I "train" by doing fun and sometimes competitive rides. Everyone will disagree, but my thought is that if you aren't enjoying your training you should find a different way to train. It's a hobby.
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As all previous arguments have indicated, I "train" by doing fun and sometimes competitive rides. Everyone will disagree, but my thought is that if you aren't enjoying your training you should find a different way to train. It's a hobby.
Truth. But different flavors of people like different flavors of training. You like training by doing fun and competitive rides. I personally wouldn't be able to do that. I like training by having a rigid schedule and grinding away at night by myself on long and boring rides. You'd probably find my training torturous but I enjoy it. It's weird and cool how people can train so many different ways but all have the same end goal.
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Old 10-17-13, 10:57 AM   #165
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Truth. But different flavors of people like different flavors of training. You like training by doing fun and competitive rides. I personally wouldn't be able to do that. I like training by having a rigid schedule and grinding away at night by myself on long and boring rides. You'd probably find my training torturous but I enjoy it. It's weird and cool how people can train so many different ways but all have the same end goal.
This, plus you're kidding yourself if you expect to enjoy every second of every training ride that you do. The way I see it, my results or lack there of also drive my training. If I have to suffer a bit for an awesome pay off later down the road, that's plenty worth it.
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Truth. But different flavors of people like different flavors of training. You like training by doing fun and competitive rides. I personally wouldn't be able to do that. I like training by having a rigid schedule and grinding away at night by myself on long and boring rides. You'd probably find my training torturous but I enjoy it. It's weird and cool how people can train so many different ways but all have the same end goal.
Agree with this, for the most part. I'll go on the occasional competitive ride but I'll enjoy a 3 hour solo ride just as much.

If a guy wants to overtrain to reach the top, so be it, but there is a cost. I did that for several other hobbies, the big one coming to mind is 9 Ball (Billiards) and the day I finally won the weekly tournament I entered for 3 years straight my interest dropped like a rock and I quit overnight. I hope that never happens in cycling.
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This, plus you're kidding yourself if you expect to enjoy every second of every training ride that you do. The way I see it, my results or lack there of also drive my training. If I have to suffer a bit for an awesome pay off later down the road, that's plenty worth it.
Yup.
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As all previous arguments have indicated, I "train" by doing fun and sometimes competitive rides. Everyone will disagree, but my thought is that if you aren't enjoying your training you should find a different way to train. It's a hobby.
I agree that you can find a training setup that works for you and is fun. My point is that, as robabeatle mentioned, you can train so much (with any setup) that it's not fun. Would your training still be fun if you bumped it up 2x? 3x? Would it be fun if there was so much training that it was straining your relationships and your work? Your health and even your fitness? These are rhetorical questions, but you get the point.
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There is also a huge difference in a beginner (to racing) training a lot, versus someone who's been racing for a few years training a lot.

And of course "a lot" means something different for everyone..
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Fun is a pretty poor metric
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Fun is a pretty poor metric
It's as subjective as a "good result"!
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I find winning to be fun. What most guys find fun as relates to bicycles bores me to tears.
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I agree that you can find a training setup that works for you and is fun. My point is that, as robabeatle mentioned, you can train so much (with any setup) that it's not fun. Would your training still be fun if you bumped it up 2x? 3x? Would it be fun if there was so much training that it was straining your relationships and your work? Your health and even your fitness? These are rhetorical questions, but you get the point.
Definitely something I struggle with and can understand. Trying to take a better approach this year myself.
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I would like to win a Masters open race.

A stretch, for sure, since we usually race with the same guys who are winning the local P/1 races the same day.

But; I did get a 2nd this year so it's not totally delusional.
You 50 yet?
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You 50 yet?
no. not that it would help, there are plenty of 50 plussers who are faster than me as well.
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