Awc1chan

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting. I recently acquired a nishiki (no idea what frame) Nishiki road bike that is in mint condition. It was collected by my dads friend who passed away. Never ridden.

I went to do she research and this is what I found but still can not identify the bike and what its worth.

It has:
campolongo record c derailer front and back
Campolongo c seat post and down tube shifters.
Campolongo C hubs for the front and rear wheel.
Shimano 600 crank and stem.
Shimano exage motion breaks levers
Has oringial dia comp breaks.

It would be great if someone can help identify which nishiki this was. The bike weighs super light.

bikemig 

Some pictures would help especially of the drive side.

Awc1chan

Here are the pictures. Sorry its my first time on this forum.
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Hope this helps. I really want to know what kind of bike this is.

Awc1chan

It would also be great to know how much it is worth. Thanks

eastbay71

It looks like this bike was repainted and then rebuilt to me. This era Nishiki would have come with Suntour components and Maxy cranks not a mix of Campagnolo and Shimano. The frame looks very similar to my International and I would guess it's an International or Olympic from the early 70's. If you knew the serial number you might be able to date it.

This bike would be worth much more in pieces. The Shimano 600 stem and C Record parts are where the money is at in this bike. The frame is nice but not worth much especially with no decals.

cb400bill

Pic Assist.

Awc1chan

The serial number is CG04029 for the Nishiki. Were there Nishiki bike made with campolongo parts?

Yeah he collected a lot of bikes including a bianchi sbx and miele chic road issue. All decked out with components but he liked to rip the decal all off.

T-Mar

An early 1970s Olympic or International would not have a forged rear dropout with integral hanger. However, the presence of side mounted, top tube cable stops or eyelets indicate it is not one of the higher end models. This one appears late 1970s, circa 1977/1978. Still, an International is probably the best candidate. I seen Canadian market Shields Nishiki from this period in a very similar colour so, if it is a repaint, it may have been an attempt at a colour match. The serial number should allow us to date it more accurately and determine the intended market. As already noted, it has been significantly upgraded and a mix of Japanese components would have been OEM.

T-Mar

Bingo, it's a 1977 Canadian market Shields Nishiki International. While Nishiki did offer some Campagnolo equipped models, this did not happen until the early 1980s. The original build on this model was Shimano 600 derailleurs, SR Apex crankset and Shimano small flange, aluminum hubs with quick release laced to 27" Ukai 16A rims. The stem was an SR APex and the post was a generic, steel, tubnular version. The brake calipers are OEM. FYI, it is a hi-tensile frame.

ramzilla

I like it. Your Dad's friend must have been a good bike mechanic. It looks like quite a few modifications were made to it. The parts on that bike are work several hundred dollars alone. I'd also be surprised if it was just an ordinary high tension steel frame. How much does it weigh? You could ask $500 for that - maybe more.

bikemig 

Probably better to part the bike out if looking to sell.

Awc1chan

The bike weighs nothing more than 23 pounds at most. Its super light.

Awc1chan

But anyways thanks guys for identifying the bike. I am gonna get rid of it for $400 cause I am not a bike mechanic and don't know how to take things apart.

Dave Mayer

Late 70’s mid-level Nishiki. My brother has this exact Canadian-issue frame, but still with original parts and paint. He paid about $250 back in the day. His components are a mix of Dia-Compe and Sugino.

The bike in the pic has had most of the original components swapped, and from what I can see:

• Stem is Shimano 600 AX. Very nice stem.
• Crankset: Shimano 600 with Biopace HP rings. So the crankset roughly 10 years newer than frame.
• Hubs: Record – not the more desirable C-Record hubs.
• Seatpost: looks like Chorus or Victory.
• Shifters: perhaps C-Record - friction version. Or maybe Chorus.
• Rear derailleur: Chorus A-B, not C-Record
• Front derailleur: Chorus or Victory, not C-Record
• Freewheel: unknown.
• Rims? Unknown. If they are tubulars then they will have to be replaced for anyone but a tiny minority of cyclists to safely ride on this bike. Even a short test ride on old by-now-unglued tubulars is life-threatening.

Advice for resale: only showing a non-drive-side picture decreases the value by $100. Spelling ‘brakes’ incorrectly drops the value by another $50. Spelling ‘Campagnolo’ incorrectly drops the value another $100.

T-Mar

Oh, it's definitely hi-tensile tubing. My wife has one, which I bought for her new in 1977. The tubing deal say HI-TENSION, the catalogue says "hi-tensile steel tubing" and the proper seat post size is 25.8mm. The Canadian market models were spec'd by the distributor (in this case Shields) and do not necessarily reflect what was being offered in the USA.

3alarmer 

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...if you're curious, here are some pictures of an American market 1978 International, more or less with the original components.



I believe they were marketed at that time as "touring" bikes, then gradually morphed into something else in the mid-later 80's.

ramzilla

Some of the older high tension steel bikes were actually pretty light after being stripped down to the bare frame. And, if you took the heavy wheels and parts off & replaced with lighter stuff you could have a respectable lightweight ride. Take the front wheel off & look carefully at the chrome fork dropouts. They could have the name Ishiwata or Kuwahara stamped there. Have fun & good luck selling it.

jet sanchEz

$400 is about right, it will be gone pretty quick if you live in a large-ish city.


Edit: the replies below me are more correct, the only value is in the parts although that wheelset looks mint and might be worth $150 or more on its own

exmechanic89

I would doubt a weight of 23lbs as well - 26-27 is much more likely. And it's the same here selling wise - $400 is dreaming, imo..

bikemig 

+ 1. I picked up a raleigh supercourse mk ii earlier this summer for $175. It has a 531 plain gauge main triangle and it has been nicely upgraded with a lot of high end parts (dura ace brakes, crane derailleurs, shimano 600 shifters, TA triple crank, nuovo record headset, hubs, and seat post).

T-Mar

Weight of my wife's near stock (upgraded saddle and pedals) 1977 Shields Nishiki International is 27 lbs. Given the changes, I could see this one tipping the scales at around 24.5-25 lbs. The only way that I could see this under 24 lbs would be if that is a tubular wheelset.