For the love of English 3 speeds...
#5901
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Has anyone upgraded the brake levers and calipers with something that looks the vintage part and has stock fender clearance? The levers rattle sometimes with the play of the lever between the rivets and the brake calipers themselves aren't the best.
I find the stock brakes are pretty terrible with poor lever feel, even with CR18 aluminum rims and kool stop salmon brake pads.
I find the stock brakes are pretty terrible with poor lever feel, even with CR18 aluminum rims and kool stop salmon brake pads.
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I must say, I'm quite happy no one heeded my call for intervention.
Now I need to find a green Raleigh Sports chainguard. Does anyone know where the serial number is located?
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The frame looks much older than 1973. The rear wheel might be a replacement.
What is that logo on the rear fender? I can't read it.
I like the bike and especially the tail light.
What is that logo on the rear fender? I can't read it.
I like the bike and especially the tail light.
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Alain Mertens (at the top)
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BRAINEL??LEUD
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noglider,
I just noticed that the front hub has a clip covering an oil port - that does seem older than 1973. The pedals look old but have reflectors. WTF?
I just noticed that the front hub has a clip covering an oil port - that does seem older than 1973. The pedals look old but have reflectors. WTF?
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Also, that crankset is the three-brace style that would have come on a later 1970s Sports. Plus, you have a locking fork, a la Superbe! I think the Sports models with a locking fork might have been made in the 1950s (assuming the fork and frame match, which looks like they do).
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@dweenk - whohoo! What a beauty and a fantastic platform for a project. I hope you'll start a thread detailing your work. That's really nice. Is it that "Bronze Green" that's extra special?
I almost didn't reply to the seller because I have too many bikes at this time, but I had a hunch that this one was good. I must say that I really like this bike. I just have to find a chainguard to match it though, and discover its true age (rear hub and front hub seem years apart at this time). My wife has a birthday in February, so I need to get it clean (at least) before then.
When I really start a refurb I will take your advice about a new thread.
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Thanks Narhay, but I'd like to find the year of my bike before jumping on that. The "Raleigh Sports" decal on the down tube is very plain script. i would like to find a guard that was a match. I love this thread.
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You can see the boss for a chaincase in the last picture. It is probably an older frame or it may be from Europe. The crank looks newer, though, as do the pedals.
The saddle is great, lights are very nice.
Edit: I looked at Kurt's Headbadge site and the decals look like late '50s, early '60s. Who knows, though?
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May I introduce Prince Phillip , the patina lad with attitude. (I tried calling the bike Princess Phillipa, but just didn't roll off the tongue quite right).
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
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Well done!
Be careful w/ the stem so high. Is there a minimum insertion line? Beware.
PS
Since most Portland drivers are on the Right side of the road consider re-locating the taillight to the Left side at some point.
edit: Nevermind you have a modern battery taillight. Leave OEM be!
-Bandera
Be careful w/ the stem so high. Is there a minimum insertion line? Beware.
PS
Since most Portland drivers are on the Right side of the road consider re-locating the taillight to the Left side at some point.
edit: Nevermind you have a modern battery taillight. Leave OEM be!
-Bandera
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May I introduce Prince Phillip , the patina lad with attitude. (I tried calling the bike Princess Phillipa, but just didn't roll off the tongue quite right).
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
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The original pedals on my wife's 1955/6 Standard have reflectors....so don't let that make you believe it isn't older than the hub indicates.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
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Nicely done @Velocivixen! Now for the ride report.....
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@Velocivixen- how much in the way of threads do you have exposed on the nuts on the cotter pins? I can't tell from the photos (nice work BTW) but the cotter pin seems to be sticking out further than I would expect. If the nuts are driven on far enough that some of the thread of the pin is exposed then I would say you are good to go. But if the thread is even with the top of the nut I would consider filing the cotter pins a bit.
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The forks still have the herons rather than the "R" decals so the frame's earlier than 73, according to headbadge Sports decal guide. Also, the fork has pin striping. I think I can see pump pegs, but not sure.
My wag is the frame is late 60s (pinstriping, herons on the forks, bolt-clamp terminated cables, other decal details, from what we can see) but the wheels and crank (and maybe some other parts) are from a 73 or 74. I don't know what to make out of the fork lock nor the chaincase braze-on. I'd never seen the braze-on before the other day, have no idea if that feature survived into the late 60s.
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Well done!
Be careful w/ the stem so high. Is there a minimum insertion line? Beware.
PS
Since most Portland drivers are on the Right side of the road consider re-locating the taillight to the Left side at some point.
edit: Nevermind you have a modern battery taillight. Leave OEM be!
-Bandera
Be careful w/ the stem so high. Is there a minimum insertion line? Beware.
PS
Since most Portland drivers are on the Right side of the road consider re-locating the taillight to the Left side at some point.
edit: Nevermind you have a modern battery taillight. Leave OEM be!
-Bandera
@Salubrious - the threads from the ends of the pin are in the center of the nut. In other words, there is more room for the nut to be screwed on more. So you're saying I should have more of the threads at the end of the cotter pin engaged by the nut? If so I may just take to the bike coop. I don't have the tools to file (not sure what's needed) and don't have a way to make positively sure they're filed equally. I guess I could just get cotter pins that are filed down more.
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The original pedals on my wife's 1955/6 Standard have reflectors....so don't let that make you believe it isn't older than the hub indicates.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
Should I be looking for a hockey stick chainguard with a brace for the boss, or an enclosed chain case? I'll check out the seat lug for numbers later today and report back.
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May I introduce Prince Phillip , the patina lad with attitude. (I tried calling the bike Princess Phillipa, but just didn't roll off the tongue quite right).
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
Brakes are great in the front, bad in the back - worse than I think they should be. Oh well. I'll tell more on my thread, but for now here it is. I believe it to be 1955, in part because the SA AG dyne-three rear hub says "8 55" AND because the rear light was only made, or at least advertised '53, '54, '55.
I bought the vinyl bag today from an older guy who redoes old Schwinns. He bought it new off eBay & it's from a Raleigh made Huffy, and he never installed it. It resembles the bags in the 1955 bike catalog for Phillips, so thought it would be appropriate.
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That's awesome.
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Ok, I found the serial number.. The paint is thick, but the number appears to be 1624904. According to Sheldon Brown and Kurt Kaminer, that would date the manufacture of the frame to 1970, although it could have been built up for sale as late as 1973. Maybe the hub is original then. I also found a clamp on the down tube that has no purpose. I took a photo of it.
After looking a chain guards on ebay, I see that the clamp is the down tube attachment for the chain guard. The original must have been the hockey stick style.
The original pedals on my wife's 1955/6 Standard have reflectors....so don't let that make you believe it isn't older than the hub indicates.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
Serial number should be on seat tube top lug. Will definitely help the mystery.
I tend to agree the rear wheel and shifter have been replaced - notice there is the typical 70s fully enclosed shift cable with the chain stay cable stop instead of the expected pully. Shifter is consistent with 70s as well. However grips, oil port front wheel, chaincase boss, etc all point to an older bike. All explained if the rear wheel and shifter were replaced in the 70s.
After looking a chain guards on ebay, I see that the clamp is the down tube attachment for the chain guard. The original must have been the hockey stick style.
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