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Old 09-22-16, 05:32 PM
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Raleigh pedal threads. Are they standard threading meaning can i put some MKS Sylvan touring pedals on my Superbe. I have an old mismatched pedal set now.
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Originally Posted by scale
Raleigh pedal threads. Are they standard threading meaning can i put some MKS Sylvan touring pedals on my Superbe. I have an old mismatched pedal set now.
Yes, they fit. If you look through the pics here, you'll see quite a few. Like the beautiful Superbe against the mountain view a few posts back.
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Yes, they fit. If you look through the pics here, you'll see quite a few. Like the beautiful Superbe against the mountain view a few posts back.
thanks! I knew i saw them here somewhere....or so i thought. I figured im going to get new pedals and those look so good. Im glad they are a fit. Those are my favorite pedals. I have run them on my other bikes in the past and its the only platform pedal i will buy.

DO i get idiot points?.....considering there is a picture posted just 6 or so posts up? (shakes head.....looks down at the floor in shame).

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Looks like Three Speed Friday on the local CL, filled with two-fers!

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Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!!

Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!! (Chesapeake Great Bridge)



2 - Raleigh "Tourist" - rod brake style bikes - 3 speed sturmey-archer 28 inch rims, one with a brooks seat - both up and running - one is super clean - very collectible - $575 for both

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2 vintage Raleigh 3 speed bicycles

2 vintage Raleigh 3 speed bicycles - $50






condition: fair
make / manufacturer: Raleigh

2 vintage Raleigh bicycles. $50 each. 1 men's (red) and 1 women's (blue) bike. These have always been garaged. They were used frequently 30 years ago but have been stored since. Tires have beeen inflated.

(eBay appears to have some similar bikes listed for $140-200 each.)
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My work schedule these days doesn't allow for day trips to interesting places. My rides are pretty much the same everyday. Not much to say about them. Still, it's good to get out on the bike.
This is a good site for pictures. They've been adding to it for some time now.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/hub_ge...ers/pool/page1
Yeah, I know about that flickr pool. In fact, I know I got some pics in there somewhere!

But what I want to see is pics of your bike! And it doesn't matter that you can't do "day trips to interesting places". I mean, most of my pics are just from riding around town, to/from work.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
Looks like Three Speed Friday on the local CL, filled with two-fers!

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Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!!

Raleigh Rod Brake Vintage 1978!!! (Chesapeake Great Bridge)



2 - Raleigh "Tourist" - rod brake style bikes - 3 speed sturmey-archer 28 inch rims, one with a brooks seat - both up and running - one is super clean - very collectible - $575 for both

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2 vintage Raleigh 3 speed bicycles

2 vintage Raleigh 3 speed bicycles - $50






condition: fair
make / manufacturer: Raleigh

2 vintage Raleigh bicycles. $50 each. 1 men's (red) and 1 women's (blue) bike. These have always been garaged. They were used frequently 30 years ago but have been stored since. Tires have beeen inflated.

(eBay appears to have some similar bikes listed for $140-200 each.)
Seems like a lot of the rod-braked roadsters (DL-1) were bought as his/her pairs. Fifty bux apiece for the other two Raleighs is a good deal, esp. since the red one is a 23 inch frame.
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different trigger shifter styles

Did all metal trigger shifters have that strange keyed way where the cable comes out for the barrel cable end to go into or was there a time when it was just a normal hole? I guess what im looking for is a online reference for the different trigger shifter types. I have a shifter but it needs replacing. It has the plastic cover which is fine and the shifter itself doesnt have the keyhole at the cable insert point. ITs just round. Most i am finding has this strange key hole for the special barrel. I have a key holed style shifter that i could use but it is one of those "speedy shifter" knockoffs so i would rather not.

That got me thinking, how many different styles were their?
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Originally Posted by scale
Did all metal trigger shifters have that strange keyed way where the cable comes out for the barrel cable end to go into or was there a time when it was just a normal hole? I guess what im looking for is a online reference for the different trigger shifter types. I have a shifter but it needs replacing. It has the plastic cover which is fine and the shifter itself doesnt have the keyhole at the cable insert point. ITs just round. Most i am finding has this strange key hole for the special barrel. I have a key holed style shifter that i could use but it is one of those "speedy shifter" knockoffs so i would rather not.

That got me thinking, how many different styles were their?
There's two different joins on trigger cases for the cable caps. From the early 60s on it's the key hole type. Before then it was a threaded hole. You need the proper cable end cap for each type of trigger. A threaded cap will work on a key holed shifter, but it's sloppy and the ball type cap won't work at all on a threaded shifter. Any SA trigger with the plastic cover should have the keyhole type joint.
https://www.sturmey-archerheritage.co...s/view-291.pdf

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Three Speed October challenge!

We interrupt the regularly scheduled programming on this thread to introduce a challenge: THREE SPEED OCTOBER!


The premise is simple: Ride your three speed during the month of October! Here are the basic stipulations of this challenge:
  1. Ride a three speed bicycle
  2. Three times a week during a calendar week (Sunday through Saturday)
  3. At least three miles (5 km) each trip
  4. For at least three weeks
  5. Between Sunday October 2 and Saturday November 5 2016
  6. At least one ride a week should be for utility/errands/commuting

And those of you who successfully complete the challenge will get something!
Three lucky folk will win memberships to Society of Three Speeds,
and anyone who completes the challenge will qualify for a discounted SoTS membership.

For full details, go here: https://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/3-spd-oct/
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I just came back from Ludhiana, India with a KW Industries "bike in a box" https://www.kwcycles.com/imgs/kw-rl-type.jpg.

All the parts are there and it just has to be put together. Rod brakes and single speed 40/32 wheels (28 X 1 1/2) with brand new Ralson tyres RALSON (INDIA) LIMITED - Manufacturer and Exporter of Bicycle & Automobile tyres, tubes and bicycle components, Tyres (Nylon & Cotton, Coloured, Gumwall, White wall & Black), Tubes (Natural & Butyl rubber) and Ralson auto tyres..

I have several 36-hole and 40-hole SA hubs and will build up to use on the KWs as 3-speeds.

The bike has the stand (under the wheel), but they did not have any rear racks. No matter as the racks are available here in the MENA./Arabian Gulf area. FWIW, it seems KW makes the "strongest" spares of all bicycle manufacturers in India. Their bicycle chain plant is a sight to be seen. They make a million chains a year - with almost no returns as "faulty". Apparently they make enough "spares" to make 4500 "bikes-in-a-box" combos a day.

Why not assembled? Cost and extra "Excise Taxes". OTOH, Hero bicycles has the Guinness World Book of Records for making about 18,500 bicycles a DAY. They operate 6 days a week. That is a LOT of bicycles...

Fun stuff.These bicycles makes me really appreciate my custom-built Arvon1 touring bike that I use when touring the Australian outback. and
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Originally Posted by adventurepdx
And finally, let's see some ride reports! There's a lot of talk about doing things to a three speed, but not a lot of doing things with a three speed. I'd like to hear some stories. Or I'll just go on thinking that none of you actually ride these bikes.
According to Ride With GPS, I've logged around 315 miles here in NYC on my '66 Sports this season. Commuting, errands, pleasure rides along the Hudson River and the like. My commute is just around 4.5 miles, If I could take the heat of summer I'd probably be over 500 miles.
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Originally Posted by adventurepdx
And finally, let's see some ride reports! There's a lot of talk about doing things to a three speed, but not a lot of doing things with a three speed. I'd like to hear some stories. Or I'll just go on thinking that none of you actually ride these bikes.
Until I retired in June, my 1972 Raleigh Superbe was how I got to work every day. Now it gets ridden to my volunteer job, on errands, and to farmer's market. And it's been around Lake Pepin four times so far.
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Something Strange

I was riding my everyday bike yesterday (1971 Hercules). I wasn't going very fast, I heard a little "click" and the back wheel locked up..
The big "C" clip that holds the rear sprocket on had popped off and the sprocket was jammed against the chain stay.
It was a quick fix but I've never had this happen before. I've ridden this bike almost exclusively since putting it together a couple of years ago.
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@gster: wow! I wouldn't have thought there was much of a side load on the sprocket- glad it didn't cause you any physical harm.
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I'm going to guess that the ring wasn't fully seated.
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A couple things can lead to popping a circlip:

-the chain line is off and pulling the cog to one side (probably not if you've been riding it without problems). Check the drive train for wear though.

-the circlip was not fully seated (possible, especially if you were trying to max-out spacing using the spacer rings.

-the circlip is stretched (possible, especially if it has been on and off the driver for repair a lot).

-something damaged the lip around the slot where the circlip sits on the driver (very unlikely if you haven't had the wheel off lately).
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@adventurepdx -- Between the two of us, my wife and I have at least six three-speed bikes and we ride them regularly. My wife's daily commuter is an '80s Motobecane mixte frame with a '70s Sturmey AW hub. Mine is an '80s Takara frame with a "modern" Sturmey 5-speed hub. My back-up commuters are an '80 rod-brake DL-1 Tourist (when it's not raining) and a '73 Superbe (with alloy rims...for when it's raining). We also have a '57 Sports and a '51 Clubman, which are more special-occasion bikes (though my elderly mother-in-law loves the '57 Sports and rides it to church whenever she visits us), plus a 2004 Dahon Piccolo with a Sturmey AW, which only gets occasional use (but I'm glad to have it, when I need a bike that'll fit easily in somebody's car trunk). Unless I'm riding more than five miles at a time (which is rare; I live in a small city), I'll always pick a hub-geared bike.
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Here are some pics of a couple of my 3 speeds, a 1957 Evans and a 1964 Dunelt. Any ideas on who manufactured the Evans? I haven't found any on the components yet. Not sure if this helps, but the the Evans has an SW and the handlebar doesn't have a pivot adjustment. One clue might be the chain ring. It slightly different than the ring on the Dunelt and different than most chain rings of this style that I've found.









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A few more pics







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Love the Evans. Wikipedia says it was a shop in operation since 1925. Yours is just beautiful. The fork crown suggests it's very likely a Birmingham made bike, maybe Hercules. I'd put a Brooks on it and call it a day. Lovely graphics.

edit. So it's an Evans out of Michigan (just saw those pics) I'd still suggest it's Birmingham. Not sure about the stem, it looks USA made. I'd lose those reflectors it it was mine.

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Evans is from Michigan but it's an English made bike, presumably rebranded by Evans. It has 'Made in England' all over it. Haven't been able to figure out who built it though.
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Originally Posted by gster
I was riding my everyday bike yesterday (1971 Hercules). I wasn't going very fast, I heard a little "click" and the back wheel locked up..
The big "C" clip that holds the rear sprocket on had popped off and the sprocket was jammed against the chain stay.
It was a quick fix but I've never had this happen before. I've ridden this bike almost exclusively since putting it together a couple of years ago.
I had that happen on a group ride a few years ago when I was on my Lenton Sports. Not sure why or how--maybe a chainline issue?
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Originally Posted by adventurepdx
We interrupt the regularly scheduled programming on this thread to introduce a challenge: THREE SPEED OCTOBER!


The premise is simple: Ride your three speed during the month of October! Here are the basic stipulations of this challenge:
  1. Ride a three speed bicycle
  2. Three times a week during a calendar week (Sunday through Saturday)
  3. At least three miles (5 km) each trip
  4. For at least three weeks
  5. Between Sunday October 2 and Saturday November 5 2016
  6. At least one ride a week should be for utility/errands/commuting

And those of you who successfully complete the challenge will get something!
Three lucky folk will win memberships to Society of Three Speeds,
and anyone who completes the challenge will qualify for a discounted SoTS membership.

For full details, go here: https://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/3-spd-oct/
Too easy! Even my '37 Tourist sees that kind of use pretty frequently, and my rain/winter bike is built around an AW hub!
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Nice CCM 3 Speed

This showed up on Kijiji Toronto today. Reasonably priced at $100.00 CDN.
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This showed up on Kijiji Toronto today. Reasonably priced at $100.00 CDN.
That is a really nice example. I thought how I'd love a shiny red bike...with shiny chrome too!... I already have too many I don't ride.
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