For the love of English 3 speeds...
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Interesting. Am I wrong, or was that frame made for bigger wheels?
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#7029
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No time to doink or dink....
If you are in striking range in the PNW grab it:
Vintage 1970 Schwinn 3 speed mens bicycle
If you are in striking range in the PNW grab it:
Vintage 1970 Schwinn 3 speed mens bicycle
Looks to be a good price if the bike's as nice as it shows in the picture, but it's probably heavier than a Raleigh Sports.
#7030
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I was trying to figure out what to do in your exact situation back in December when I acquired a couple 50s Raleigh 50s Sports. As it turned out, the cables on the bike I put back on the road were ok and the other bike has "issues". So, I haven't looked for a while, until today:
There is an ebay seller in Belfast, Maine offering pairs of those brake cables for "Mens Bikes" for $35 including shipping. The seller handle is wood-n-bikes and you can find the ads by searching for "Raleigh brake cable." I'll bet if you contacted the seller via an ebay question that you could get a measurement.
I've never bought anything from this seller, but the feedback is 100%
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I would think that the exact length would be a rather flexible figure..They just need to be long enough, excess length can be accounted for at the lever end.
I was trying to figure out what to do in your exact situation back in December when I acquired a couple 50s Raleigh 50s Sports. As it turned out, the cables on the bike I put back on the road were ok and the other bike has "issues". So, I haven't looked for a while, until today:
There is an ebay seller in Belfast, Maine offering pairs of those brake cables for "Mens Bikes" for $35 including shipping. The seller handle is wood-n-bikes and you can find the ads by searching for "Raleigh brake cable." I'll bet if you contacted the seller via an ebay question that you could get a measurement.
I've never bought anything from this seller, but the feedback is 100%
I was trying to figure out what to do in your exact situation back in December when I acquired a couple 50s Raleigh 50s Sports. As it turned out, the cables on the bike I put back on the road were ok and the other bike has "issues". So, I haven't looked for a while, until today:
There is an ebay seller in Belfast, Maine offering pairs of those brake cables for "Mens Bikes" for $35 including shipping. The seller handle is wood-n-bikes and you can find the ads by searching for "Raleigh brake cable." I'll bet if you contacted the seller via an ebay question that you could get a measurement.
I've never bought anything from this seller, but the feedback is 100%
The cables wood-n-bikes sells look good but be careful - even though they are listed as "Raleigh Vintage" the ones I looked at had (interestingly) the "non-Raleigh" cable end but did include the adjuster and a soldered wire end, along with the piece that goes on the caliper arm. Also, for Canadian buyers they are way out of line - $43 for the pair plus $25 shipping....$68 for a pair of cables! I'll buy the $5 cables at the LBS and solder on some spoke nipples....
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I have a spare or two of those double-ended brake cables with white ribbed housing for rear brake. I can measure the length if someone is interested (and, if so, email me at lerner dot n AT gmail dot com). When I bought them a while back, I thought I was buying one, but it was actually one box full.
Those cables from wood-n-bikes don't look quite right: there's an extra pinch bolt attached (and one is missing some of the hardware).
Those cables from wood-n-bikes don't look quite right: there's an extra pinch bolt attached (and one is missing some of the hardware).
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There were two vertically integrated bicycle manufacturers that bit the dust in the last quarter of the 20th century - Raleigh [Tube Industries] in England and Schwinn in the USA. Generally, yes, the light Schwinns may have weighed a little more than the light Raleighs. Either way, both brands were built for the long haul and you can't go wrong with either - assuming you are looking at a decent example. That bike in the Portland area is a "good un"....
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Red 1965 Men's Raleigh Sports
Noticed yesterday that this bike - which I had seen a few months ago - had become available and at a fair price.
Added it to the stable today.
Added it to the stable today.
#7036
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I have a spare or two of those double-ended brake cables with white ribbed housing for rear brake. I can measure the length if someone is interested (and, if so, email me at lerner dot n AT gmail dot com). When I bought them a while back, I thought I was buying one, but it was actually one box full.
Those cables from wood-n-bikes don't look quite right: there's an extra pinch bolt attached (and one is missing some of the hardware).
Those cables from wood-n-bikes don't look quite right: there's an extra pinch bolt attached (and one is missing some of the hardware).
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There were two vertically integrated bicycle manufacturers that bit the dust in the last quarter of the 20th century - Raleigh [Tube Industries] in England and Schwinn in the USA. Generally, yes, the light Schwinns may have weighed a little more than the light Raleighs. Either way, both brands were built for the long haul and you can't go wrong with either - assuming you are looking at a decent example. That bike in the Portland area is a "good un"....
Sometimes you have to have rules. VC, apparently, has a no derailleur claw rule. Now that the Schwinn Breeze has moved next door, I have a no Ashtabula crank rule. Kind of a stupid rule, when you think about it, as an Ashtabula is orders of magnitude easier to service than a cottered crank. But, rules are rules.
Not so many weeks ago I was riding my recently built Ciocc around and I encountered a guy riding a red Schwinn three-speed with chrome fenders. Bike looked like it hadn't had any recent maintenance, but I just commented to the guy that it looked like a good old bike and that I had one when young. He said it was a 74 model that he had acquired in 79. He said that it was the perfect bike for Houston. He was almost right. A Sports is the perfect bike for Houston.
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And @velocivixen does have some opportunity to ride a three speed in Portland, like on a Three Speed Ride.
My two cents: Rather than go through the trouble of retrofitting a retro light, get the B+M Retrotec LED dynamo light. Goes for about $60 new. Yes, I realize that it's not "authentic", but from ten feet away it doesn't look any different. And if you have a Dynohub, might as well use that dynamo lighting!
Maybe I'm just too much of a pragmatist, but when the option is between "keep the not-really-good authentic light and clip a modern battery light to the handlebars" and "get a good modern aesthetically correct LED dynamo lamp to use with the Dynohub", I go with the latter. You can always save the old lamp for a later project. Or for next year when Portland will actually get a winter!
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@PalmettoUpstate, that reminds me of my ~1967 AMF Hercules.
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Do these come out oriented correctly?
That's a nice fleet.
A feature of Raleigh step-through bikes, perhaps not all of them, but a couple that we have and the ones you show, is that the head tube appears to be about the length of that on a 23" Sports, but the distance between the head tube and the top of the seat tube is about the same as on a 21" Sports. I just went out to the garage and measured both the 74 Sprite and the 51 Sports and compared them to the 21" 79 Sports. The head tubes are long, but the imaginary top tube length is not. This geometry is well-liked at out house.
Your ivory Sprite looks to have the same stem as our 74 Sprite. On ours, the stem and bars are steel and the clamp diameter is somewhere around 24 mm -- I wrote it down so I wouldn't forget and promptly lost the note. So, replacing the bars will probably require replacing the stem. You could triple or quadruple the investment in that Sprite with some nice alloy Nitto stuff.
On our Sprite, I removed the steel rimmed wheels and put on a set of alloy rimmed wheels with QRs. The bike rarely gets ridden at night, so the dyno wasn't really providing a benefit, and the alloy rims , well, they have all the alloy rim benefits. The wheels I put on are about 35 years old and still round and true. Machine built wheels with Mavic rims, Forte hubs, and SS spokes that I bought from Performance for about $50 sometime in the late 80s.
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Thank you, yes, they did. (FWIW, I can program a Garmin!)
I am trying to justify keeping the Sprite. I also have 2 other Sports, a 1956 carmine red and a very nice 1972 in green. The 1972 is the rain bike since it has a coaster brake. The years are based on hub dates.
The Sprite needs a makeover. If she doesn't stay, she will be passed along. I'll think of it as an intervention.
I am trying to justify keeping the Sprite. I also have 2 other Sports, a 1956 carmine red and a very nice 1972 in green. The 1972 is the rain bike since it has a coaster brake. The years are based on hub dates.
The Sprite needs a makeover. If she doesn't stay, she will be passed along. I'll think of it as an intervention.
#7046
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Picked up a 60s Sports today that was made in 71 and says Superbe on it.
So, there's a Craigslist ad that offers a 60s Raleigh "Sport" with headlight and pump. Note very good pictures, but looks interesting so I made arrangements to go look. From the pictures, I'm guessing early 70s. (You know you've got a problem when you think you can tell late 60s from early 70s from bad pictures.)
So I get there and a very nice young lady meets me on the porch with the bicycle and I start to look it over. The decals are a little different from the Sports and it has a dynohub and I look at the left side of the fork and it has a fork lock. I said, "that's strange, I've seen Sports bikes with dynohubs before, but never with a fork lock (except in this thread). Almost looks like a Superbe." Of course, she doesn't know what I'm talking about and says, "No, that's my grandmother's bike and she says it's a Sports." Looked a little more and see that it says "Superbe" right on it. I explained that the Sports and Superbe are very similar bikes. She takes the money, I take the bike. Everybody's happy.
Some of the chrome looks pretty nasty, and the rack has a lot of rust, but the frame's paint and decal set don't look too bad. Stem is different from the Sports stems and it has a Schwinn mattress on it which will need to go. Right side pedal appears to be cross threaded. Might answer the age old question: in a contest between a steel pedal and a steel crank, who wins?
Checked the serial number and AW stamping and the hub (smooth housing) is January 71 and the SN indicates a 71.
Here's a couple picks after it followed me home.
Looks better in the pictures than in real life, but don't we all?
So I get there and a very nice young lady meets me on the porch with the bicycle and I start to look it over. The decals are a little different from the Sports and it has a dynohub and I look at the left side of the fork and it has a fork lock. I said, "that's strange, I've seen Sports bikes with dynohubs before, but never with a fork lock (except in this thread). Almost looks like a Superbe." Of course, she doesn't know what I'm talking about and says, "No, that's my grandmother's bike and she says it's a Sports." Looked a little more and see that it says "Superbe" right on it. I explained that the Sports and Superbe are very similar bikes. She takes the money, I take the bike. Everybody's happy.
Some of the chrome looks pretty nasty, and the rack has a lot of rust, but the frame's paint and decal set don't look too bad. Stem is different from the Sports stems and it has a Schwinn mattress on it which will need to go. Right side pedal appears to be cross threaded. Might answer the age old question: in a contest between a steel pedal and a steel crank, who wins?
Checked the serial number and AW stamping and the hub (smooth housing) is January 71 and the SN indicates a 71.
Here's a couple picks after it followed me home.
Looks better in the pictures than in real life, but don't we all?
#7047
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Sorted out the collection of SA parts that were living in tubs, trays, and tins... and there is still more to sort through here as I have been picking up old shop stocks for a long time.
As far as I know I am the only shop, besides our co-op that is equipped to overhaul our beloved 3 speeds.
As far as I know I am the only shop, besides our co-op that is equipped to overhaul our beloved 3 speeds.
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Except that bike you posted is from Seattle! Or more specifically Enumclaw, a far-flung eastside suburb.
But yeah I know, Seattle and Portland might as well be the same city to a resident of the Tar Heel State.
But yeah I know, Seattle and Portland might as well be the same city to a resident of the Tar Heel State.
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So, there's a Craigslist ad that offers a 60s Raleigh "Sport" with headlight and pump. Note very good pictures, but looks interesting so I made arrangements to go look. From the pictures, I'm guessing early 70s. (You know you've got a problem when you think you can tell late 60s from early 70s from bad pictures.)
So I get there and a very nice young lady meets me on the porch with the bicycle and I start to look it over. The decals are a little different from the Sports and it has a dynohub and I look at the left side of the fork and it has a fork lock. I said, "that's strange, I've seen Sports bikes with dynohubs before, but never with a fork lock (except in this thread). Almost looks like a Superbe." Of course, she doesn't know what I'm talking about and says, "No, that's my grandmother's bike and she says it's a Sports." Looked a little more and see that it says "Superbe" right on it. I explained that the Sports and Superbe are very similar bikes. She takes the money, I take the bike. Everybody's happy.
Some of the chrome looks pretty nasty, and the rack has a lot of rust, but the frame's paint and decal set don't look too bad. Stem is different from the Sports stems and it has a Schwinn mattress on it which will need to go. Right side pedal appears to be cross threaded. Might answer the age old question: in a contest between a steel pedal and a steel crank, who wins?
Checked the serial number and AW stamping and the hub (smooth housing) is January 71 and the SN indicates a 71.
Here's a couple picks after it followed me home.
Looks better in the pictures than in real life, but don't we all?
So I get there and a very nice young lady meets me on the porch with the bicycle and I start to look it over. The decals are a little different from the Sports and it has a dynohub and I look at the left side of the fork and it has a fork lock. I said, "that's strange, I've seen Sports bikes with dynohubs before, but never with a fork lock (except in this thread). Almost looks like a Superbe." Of course, she doesn't know what I'm talking about and says, "No, that's my grandmother's bike and she says it's a Sports." Looked a little more and see that it says "Superbe" right on it. I explained that the Sports and Superbe are very similar bikes. She takes the money, I take the bike. Everybody's happy.
Some of the chrome looks pretty nasty, and the rack has a lot of rust, but the frame's paint and decal set don't look too bad. Stem is different from the Sports stems and it has a Schwinn mattress on it which will need to go. Right side pedal appears to be cross threaded. Might answer the age old question: in a contest between a steel pedal and a steel crank, who wins?
Checked the serial number and AW stamping and the hub (smooth housing) is January 71 and the SN indicates a 71.
Here's a couple picks after it followed me home.
Looks better in the pictures than in real life, but don't we all?