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Old 01-30-11, 08:48 PM
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Interesting lugs...

Maybe someone can tell me something about this frame?

I've never seen lugs like this, so I don't know what to search or where. The dropouts are Campagnolo, the lugs are stamped "BSE Italy".
The PSz stamp refers to (afaik) Patai-Szabó, the name of a hungarian frame maker.

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Don't know anything about the frame I am afraid; the new paint is interesting though. Big Star Wars fan?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Alliance
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despite what's engraved on the BB shell, the lugs and that shell look very much like some called "Nash" and I believe are made by Long Shen in China, they are investment cast.
https://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPART...B%20Shells.htm
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well the brake bridge tells us it is a pinarello and i can tell you i love the lugs, but that is all ive got...

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Looks like the lugs sold with that Nash bottom bracket match the bike as well.
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please don't tell me this is being turned into a fixed gear bike...
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please don't tell me this is being turned into a fixed gear bike...
It has a tab for a front derailleur...but no hanger on the rear dropout. I am guessing that ship has sailed.
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Beautiful and interesting frame; the shape on those lugs is something else. The paint job is pretty awesome too.
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Originally Posted by sfclearwater
Don't know anything about the frame I am afraid; the new paint is interesting though. Big Star Wars fan?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Alliance
Yes, indeed
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
It has a tab for a front derailleur...but no hanger on the rear dropout. I am guessing that ship has sailed.
Well, yes, I bought it to build a fixed gear bike. The previous owner cut the tab, the frame was already like this, when I got it.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
despite what's engraved on the BB shell, the lugs and that shell look very much like some called "Nash" and I believe are made by Long Shen in China, they are investment cast.
https://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPART...B%20Shells.htm
Very much Looks like this, yes
Strange thing is, mine is italian threaded, and the site says english.
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Originally Posted by Lucky Thirteen
Very much Looks like this, yes
Strange thing is, mine is italian threaded, and the site says english.
that is strange, but a shell can be re-threaded. Is the width 70mm or 68mm?
it's also possible that Long Shen just copied (maybe exactly copied) a lug and shell pattern that was originally Italian, but had no Chinese patent. It happens...
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
that is strange, but a shell can be re-threaded. Is the width 70mm or 68mm?
it's also possible that Long Shen just copied (maybe exactly copied) a lug and shell pattern that was originally Italian, but had no Chinese patent. It happens...
70 mm.
Maybe the "BSE Italy" markings refer to the lugmaker, but google didn't find anything.
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whoa, being the nerd that I am I would LOVE to see this built up
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Originally Posted by Lucky Thirteen
Maybe someone can tell me something about this frame?

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
well the brake bridge tells us it is a pinarello and i can tell you i love the lugs, but that is all ive got...
Originally Posted by Lucky Thirteen
70 mm.
Maybe the "BSE Italy" markings refer to the lugmaker, but google didn't find anything.
have you tried contacting pinarello? after all, they are an italian frame builder and this bike has italian droupouts, italian threads, and pinarello on the brake bridge...
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Originally Posted by sauze
whoa, being the nerd that I am I would LOVE to see this built up
Sure, I'll post some pics when I finish it.
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
have you tried contacting pinarello? after all, they are an italian frame builder and this bike has italian droupouts, italian threads, and pinarello on the brake bridge...
Well, why not?
Thanks for the tip, I wrote them an e-mail (hopefully for the right address). Maybe they can come up with something new.
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Originally Posted by Lucky Thirteen
Well, why not?
Thanks for the tip, I wrote them an e-mail (hopefully for the right address). Maybe they can come up with something new.
i dont know much about the pinarello, but in my dealings with other italian companies (campagnolo and tommasini) they have always been extremely helpful and friendly. hopefully your experience is the same.
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These aren't the lugs you are looking for...
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Originally Posted by amesja
these aren't the lugs you are looking for...
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Originally Posted by sauze
whoa, being the nerd that I am I would LOVE to see this built up
Pics here
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Ok, that rebel alliance paint is awesome.

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May the Force be with you. Beautiful frame, btw.
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