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I got this local Chinese joint that I order from weekly, and I tip average to well because they are fast and consistently decent.
They've switched to cash only recently, a bit inconvenient at times because I don't like to carry ca$h, ever. Cards and dustbunnies in my wallet.
So...I ordered a few weeks ago, I don't have the latest menu, and the tally came to $17ish. I had exactly a $20.
Guy shows up and the bill is exactly $20.
So I give him $20.
Old, grey-haired curmudegeonly fellow. As the storm door is closing I hear him gruffly and indignantly state, "No tip?!?!"
Kinda nervy...
I said, "I always tip, but tonight this is all I have."
He walks off with a bit of a harumph.
So..... recently I order again and I ask if the ol' buzzard is delivering tonight and the answer was in the affirmative.
Ol' buzzard shows up, I answer the door, I hand him the money including twice the tip amount, and I say, "I always tip, and I tip well, and I've been a customer for a very long time, don't ever give me any bull**** again about tips."
He was okay with that.
They've switched to cash only recently, a bit inconvenient at times because I don't like to carry ca$h, ever. Cards and dustbunnies in my wallet.
So...I ordered a few weeks ago, I don't have the latest menu, and the tally came to $17ish. I had exactly a $20.
Guy shows up and the bill is exactly $20.
So I give him $20.
Old, grey-haired curmudegeonly fellow. As the storm door is closing I hear him gruffly and indignantly state, "No tip?!?!"
Kinda nervy...
I said, "I always tip, but tonight this is all I have."
He walks off with a bit of a harumph.
So..... recently I order again and I ask if the ol' buzzard is delivering tonight and the answer was in the affirmative.
Ol' buzzard shows up, I answer the door, I hand him the money including twice the tip amount, and I say, "I always tip, and I tip well, and I've been a customer for a very long time, don't ever give me any bull**** again about tips."
He was okay with that.
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I am a cheapskate but generally tip very well. Especially at a lower cost sit-down restaurant I will sometimes tip $5 on a $15-20 charge. Usually give 18-20%. I think you are supposed to tip based on the bill BEFORE tax and BEFORE alcohol, at least that's what I was told many years ago.
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I got this local Chinese joint that I order from weekly, and I tip average to well because they are fast and consistently decent.
They've switched to cash only recently, a bit inconvenient at times because I don't like to carry ca$h, ever. Cards and dustbunnies in my wallet.
So...I ordered a few weeks ago, I don't have the latest menu, and the tally came to $17ish. I had exactly a $20.
Guy shows up and the bill is exactly $20.
So I give him $20.
Old, grey-haired curmudegeonly fellow. As the storm door is closing I hear him gruffly and indignantly state, "No tip?!?!"
Kinda nervy...
I said, "I always tip, but tonight this is all I have."
He walks off with a bit of a harumph.
So..... recently I order again and I ask if the ol' buzzard is delivering tonight and the answer was in the affirmative.
Ol' buzzard shows up, I answer the door, I hand him the money including twice the tip amount, and I say, "I always tip, and I tip well, and I've been a customer for a very long time, don't ever give me any bull**** again about tips."
He was okay with that.
They've switched to cash only recently, a bit inconvenient at times because I don't like to carry ca$h, ever. Cards and dustbunnies in my wallet.
So...I ordered a few weeks ago, I don't have the latest menu, and the tally came to $17ish. I had exactly a $20.
Guy shows up and the bill is exactly $20.
So I give him $20.
Old, grey-haired curmudegeonly fellow. As the storm door is closing I hear him gruffly and indignantly state, "No tip?!?!"
Kinda nervy...
I said, "I always tip, but tonight this is all I have."
He walks off with a bit of a harumph.
So..... recently I order again and I ask if the ol' buzzard is delivering tonight and the answer was in the affirmative.
Ol' buzzard shows up, I answer the door, I hand him the money including twice the tip amount, and I say, "I always tip, and I tip well, and I've been a customer for a very long time, don't ever give me any bull**** again about tips."
He was okay with that.
I bet their business would see a boom if they accepted cards. Of course they would have to report all of their income then.
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The local Phoenix cyclists don't ride in the sun during summer. It's insane, really. There's no moisture in the environment, so the environment is sucking all the moisture out of you as you ride along. I don't know the particulars, but a 5 gallon camelback might be the only way to ride for an hour in the sun out there. lol The local guys don't do any serious riding until the sun goes down in the evening.
I have not ridden there. I haven't been able to find a rental shop that rents road bikes my size, and I have no interest in hybrid riding.
I'm picky.
I have not ridden there. I haven't been able to find a rental shop that rents road bikes my size, and I have no interest in hybrid riding.
I'm picky.
What size are you? The local facebook/selling group is called Stevebay, I bet you could ask on there and get a handful of offers for loaners or suggestions on where to rent from.
Regarding tipping...I was recently in Austin for Psych Fest and was trying to order a beer, there were a pile of distracted/f'd up kids in front of me and a girl working the counter called me over and waited on me right away. I thought this was nice of her and I tipped 20% on the ipad screen. The people behind me saw this and lost their **** that I actually tipped for a beer at a music festival. Apparently tipping for good service is lost on some people.
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I am a cheapskate but generally tip very well. Especially at a lower cost sit-down restaurant I will sometimes tip $5 on a $15-20 charge. Usually give 18-20%. I think you are supposed to tip based on the bill BEFORE tax and BEFORE alcohol, at least that's what I was told many years ago.
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If I have the correct $ in my wallet, I generally try to leave a cash tip for the server and pay for the meal by CC. Last week my wife and I were at a good local Cuban restaurant for breakfast, had 2 eggs, 2 pancakes, 2 slices of bacon, cup of café con leche for $4.50, she had coffee and toast. Great little place and service was ok, but left a $5.00 tip. I never leave less than a $5 tip for sit down service. Takeout - just depends. Once the meal gets higher, $60-$100, usually just go with 20%.
With haircuts I pay $13 which I think is very cheap, so I just give him a $20. More during Xmas.
With haircuts I pay $13 which I think is very cheap, so I just give him a $20. More during Xmas.
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The tips my wife usually gets for cutting hair ranges from $2-4 for the most part. What I find surprising is the range of tips when she does colors which can take several hours and range in cost from $75-150 for the service. She sometimes gets a $10-20 tip for that. Other times only $2 which is horrible considering she's giving up doing 4-8 haircuts in the time it takes to do the color. You tip her $2 and she's easily out $10-20 in lost tips.
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Hell yeah, that and the prompt service; it's a good argument for paying cash at the bar. My wife always got a kick out of it when I could accurately predict the buyback round, which I was almost never wrong about (we don't belly up to the bar so much these days... *sigh*).
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I am a cheapskate but generally tip very well. Especially at a lower cost sit-down restaurant I will sometimes tip $5 on a $15-20 charge. Usually give 18-20%. I think you are supposed to tip based on the bill BEFORE tax and BEFORE alcohol, at least that's what I was told many years ago.
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That's another good point - I do tip higher at lower-cost places. Especially Waterloo Ice House here, I can get a burger and salad for something in the vicinity of $10 at the bar, and the bartender is great and provides all the attention of a full-service waiter. I tip them $4-5. It's still cheaper than a bunch of other places, and I can't bring myself to tip someone $2 for good service, even if that is 20%.
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Sometimes the scenario is pure Mickey D but with much better food. Sometimes it is almost full service. It is tough to know how to tip. I guarantee the places I give 10% for the service staff doing almost nothing, most folks don't leave a thing.
Remember you don't tip out of charity but in return for a service. Normally a waiter makes three trips to the table just to manage payment. What if the food was already paid for?
The fact that plenty places omit the tip line from the cc slip makes it clear that management is covering the service charge. If a place looks and is operated just like that but includes the tip line on the cc slip, it is hard to know exacy what to do.
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That's another good point - I do tip higher at lower-cost places. Especially Waterloo Ice House here, I can get a burger and salad for something in the vicinity of $10 at the bar, and the bartender is great and provides all the attention of a full-service waiter. I tip them $4-5. It's still cheaper than a bunch of other places, and I can't bring myself to tip someone $2 for good service, even if that is 20%.
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We have a 'cash only' Chinese place too. Their food is great and they deliver, but we almost never eat their food because they're 'cash only'. Who the hell carries cash? I bet Robert does...
I bet their business would see a boom if they accepted cards. Of course they would have to report all of their income then.
I bet their business would see a boom if they accepted cards. Of course they would have to report all of their income then.
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This is a very common practice.
Hell yeah, that and the prompt service; it's a good argument for paying cash at the bar. My wife always got a kick out of it when I could accurately predict the buyback round, which I was almost never wrong about (we don't belly up to the bar so much these days... *sigh*).
Hell yeah, that and the prompt service; it's a good argument for paying cash at the bar. My wife always got a kick out of it when I could accurately predict the buyback round, which I was almost never wrong about (we don't belly up to the bar so much these days... *sigh*).
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I am a cheapskate but generally tip very well. Especially at a lower cost sit-down restaurant I will sometimes tip $5 on a $15-20 charge. Usually give 18-20%. I think you are supposed to tip based on the bill BEFORE tax and BEFORE alcohol, at least that's what I was told many years ago.
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Much as I like a good Robert pile-on, he's talking in the context of an order (and possibly pick-up) at the counter kind of place, not a place with typical sit down service - a familiar place that operates along these lines would be Panera. It is a gray area; many (most?) bar/restaurant servers get paid significantly less than the minimum wage, something that would not fly under the Panera model.
There is a breakfast/brunch place that we like to go to pretty frequently, and they're a straight-up hybrid service model: stand in line to order and pay at the counter (tip line on the receipt), then sit down and the food will be brought out. The food runners are often very helpful, bringing additional condiments, napkins, utensils, etc. and then bussing the dishes afterwards (they don't take any additional orders, though). We didn't know what to make of it at first, but on subsequent trips, we knew that the service would be good but limited, so, coupled with the fairly good food value, we're happy to leave about 15% up front (20% is our typical minimum with sit down service).
There is a breakfast/brunch place that we like to go to pretty frequently, and they're a straight-up hybrid service model: stand in line to order and pay at the counter (tip line on the receipt), then sit down and the food will be brought out. The food runners are often very helpful, bringing additional condiments, napkins, utensils, etc. and then bussing the dishes afterwards (they don't take any additional orders, though). We didn't know what to make of it at first, but on subsequent trips, we knew that the service would be good but limited, so, coupled with the fairly good food value, we're happy to leave about 15% up front (20% is our typical minimum with sit down service).
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“What is a Buy-back?” you ask. This is bar terminology. It mostly applies in New York City and certain other major cities throughout the United States. It is the “free” drink that you get after purchasing several drinks beforehand. Normally the bartender will say, “This one is on me,” if you are paying-as-you-go, or you will notice that you are not charged for every drink when you get your bill.
A buy-back is a beautiful thing. It shows that the bar staff likes you. It is used as encouragement to not only stay at the bar longer but also to come back. There are two important factors that determine whether you have earned a buy-back:
• Tipping: Do it. There are no exceptions. A dollar per drink is standard.
• Friendliness: There is no excuse for being mean to people who are serving you.
A buy-back is a beautiful thing. It shows that the bar staff likes you. It is used as encouragement to not only stay at the bar longer but also to come back. There are two important factors that determine whether you have earned a buy-back:
• Tipping: Do it. There are no exceptions. A dollar per drink is standard.
• Friendliness: There is no excuse for being mean to people who are serving you.
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We have a 'cash only' Chinese place too. Their food is great and they deliver, but we almost never eat their food because they're 'cash only'. Who the hell carries cash? I bet Robert does...
I bet their business would see a boom if they accepted cards. Of course they would have to report all of their income then.
I bet their business would see a boom if they accepted cards. Of course they would have to report all of their income then.
Cash only restaurants are clearly scamming someone's uncle. I bet they wouldn't be so proud if they were held up.
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“What is a Buy-back?” you ask. This is bar terminology. It mostly applies in New York City and certain other major cities throughout the United States. It is the “free” drink that you get after purchasing several drinks beforehand. Normally the bartender will say, “This one is on me,” if you are paying-as-you-go, or you will notice that you are not charged for every drink when you get your bill.
A buy-back is a beautiful thing. It shows that the bar staff likes you. It is used as encouragement to not only stay at the bar longer but also to come back. There are two important factors that determine whether you have earned a buy-back:
• Tipping: Do it. There are no exceptions. A dollar per drink is standard.
• Friendliness: There is no excuse for being mean to people who are serving you.
A buy-back is a beautiful thing. It shows that the bar staff likes you. It is used as encouragement to not only stay at the bar longer but also to come back. There are two important factors that determine whether you have earned a buy-back:
• Tipping: Do it. There are no exceptions. A dollar per drink is standard.
• Friendliness: There is no excuse for being mean to people who are serving you.
I frequent a place for lunch that feels more like a bar than a restaurant. After bringing in two large parties for lunch a while back (10-15 folks each time), I noticed I wasn't getting charged for my Diet Coke any more, just the food. But only when I am alone. If my wife or a friend is with me, the drink is on the bill. Funny, huh? Oh yeah, most beautiful girl waiting on me I have ever seen anywhere. It is truly remarkable.