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I find that the trainer really exacerbates saddle issues. With my old saddle, I had problems at 45 min on the trainer that I wouldn't have had at 4 hours outside (since changing saddles, I no longer have the issue). That said, if the issue is just tissue pressure between the sit bones and the saddle, you might just need a little more time to get used to it. If you're 3 weeks of more in to your trainer sessions, then it's time to throw 'htfu' out the window and look for a new answer.
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Fixed.
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Send them over here for a few weeks, they'll come back svelte killers, and will have forgotten all about their Egyptian heritage.
No, I got the job because I got some sense . . . at least enough sense to not ride in the rain.
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#1856
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Sometimes the weather dictates when you ride, other times, you do. Other times, there just may not be a choice in the matter.
#1857
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find a store that will let you try a bunch of saddles. Try all of them, even the ones you think won't work. If it's 'almost' - try moving it front/back/up/down. And a good fitter is worth it, no matter how "advanced" you are, if you can afford it. I would got with a fitter before going with a pressure map.
Never once treated me any differently than any of his elites. He didn't even cancel my follow-up fit when he was rushing to get everything done before flying to France to tweak fits during TdF. I totally would have been fine to put my minor fit issue off a few weeks to make his schedule a little easier. But he doesn't see it that way, he does not think the pro fits are any more important than mine. Love him.
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I find that the trainer really exacerbates saddle issues. With my old saddle, I had problems at 45 min on the trainer that I wouldn't have had at 4 hours outside (since changing saddles, I no longer have the issue). That said, if the issue is just tissue pressure between the sit bones and the saddle, you might just need a little more time to get used to it. If you're 3 weeks of more in to your trainer sessions, then it's time to throw 'htfu' out the window and look for a new answer.
#1860
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Well, I've had a basic LBS fit (hop on a trainer, measure knee angles, etc), and I get it tweaked/checked every now and then. By not advanced enough I mean my body is still adjusting to riding in the first place. So until that settles down it seems like a waste paying for a really expensive super duper high tech fit, especially if I'll may need it done again in a few more months. Right now, the only complaint I have is a little lingering shoulder pain (it's going away, slowly), and this saddle on the trainer issue.
How often do you guys get fits? Is it just something you do when you get a new bike, or something you do a couple of times a year no matter what?
How often do you guys get fits? Is it just something you do when you get a new bike, or something you do a couple of times a year no matter what?
First fit $325
Two free follow ups, after that he charges $50/hr. I can never get him to charge me for a follow-up though. I think he maybe only charges people who are being OCD about it.
Second bike, same fit (ie second road bike) was supposed to be charged. He also did not charge me for this.
Third bike, new fit (ie TT bike) was $100. Same deal with the follow up fits but he has never charged me.
I'm in for $425 and probably have spent a total of 20+ hours with my fitter. It depends on what is going on and how much I'm changing things- right now with the TT bike, I see him every 6-8 weeks. Its just when I have something come up.
My road bike fit has been changed very little since he first set me up- just one adjustment to saddle height.
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Oh crap. I didn't know that was you. I didn't even listen to it, 'cause I thought it was the Eagles, and I know their version through and through. Sincere apology.
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#1863
Vain, But Lacking Talent
Calorie counting rant: The weekend sucked due to unpredictability. I thought the work week would provide some normalcy. One of our vendors brought us lunch today from one of the North Texas institutions known as Babe's Chicken. In short: calorie laden food with no calorie info provided by the restaurant. Oh geez, so Lose It has some info for them, and I figure it out as best as I can. It was not a "light" lunch, but I'm still well within my cap, including the dinner I already had planned.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
#1864
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#1865
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I think if pcad had started in the music biz today as a young man, he may have had a future in it. Big may. Sort of like saying we all may have had a shot getting into the tour. But, there's a good and unusual quality to his voice, and that sells today.
#1867
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My fitter's fees:
First fit $325
Two free follow ups, after that he charges $50/hr. I can never get him to charge me for a follow-up though. I think he maybe only charges people who are being OCD about it.
Second bike, same fit (ie second road bike) was supposed to be charged. He also did not charge me for this.
Third bike, new fit (ie TT bike) was $100. Same deal with the follow up fits but he has never charged me.
I'm in for $425 and probably have spent a total of 20+ hours with my fitter. It depends on what is going on and how much I'm changing things- right now with the TT bike, I see him every 6-8 weeks. Its just when I have something come up.
My road bike fit has been changed very little since he first set me up- just one adjustment to saddle height.
First fit $325
Two free follow ups, after that he charges $50/hr. I can never get him to charge me for a follow-up though. I think he maybe only charges people who are being OCD about it.
Second bike, same fit (ie second road bike) was supposed to be charged. He also did not charge me for this.
Third bike, new fit (ie TT bike) was $100. Same deal with the follow up fits but he has never charged me.
I'm in for $425 and probably have spent a total of 20+ hours with my fitter. It depends on what is going on and how much I'm changing things- right now with the TT bike, I see him every 6-8 weeks. Its just when I have something come up.
My road bike fit has been changed very little since he first set me up- just one adjustment to saddle height.
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I coulda been a pro baseball player. But then **** happens and you wind up spending more of your time playing something else.
Just as well, I would've gotten in trouble with all the female groupies anyway.
Just as well, I would've gotten in trouble with all the female groupies anyway.
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#1869
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Calorie counting rant: The weekend sucked due to unpredictability. I thought the work week would provide some normalcy. One of our vendors brought us lunch today from one of the North Texas institutions known as Babe's Chicken. In short: calorie laden food with no calorie info provided by the restaurant. Oh geez, so Lose It has some info for them, and I figure it out as best as I can. It was not a "light" lunch, but I'm still well within my cap, including the dinner I already had planned.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
As far as people bringing stuff, in my experience nobody cares if you only eat a little bit of their stuff, just so long as you do eat some of it. That can be a pretty good meal, with lots of variety, just in lots of tiny portions.
I think the first couple of weeks are the hardest with calorie counting. There's the hunger (maybe), the planning, and the unexpected. It's when you learn to incorporate your diet properly into your lifestyle as a conscious decision. It'll get easier, for sure. Before long it will be second nature.
One tip I have is using the barcode scanner. I eat at the in-laws a bunch, and by now they know to leave the ingredient wrappers around for me to scan into MFP to get an accurate count. I guess they want to save me the trouble of digging through their trash . Just scanning the wrappers is so much easier than trying to search for something similar enough in the food databases. You can pretty much scan in the whole mean in less than a minute if you've got the wrappers around.
#1870
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Calorie counting rant: The weekend sucked due to unpredictability. I thought the work week would provide some normalcy. One of our vendors brought us lunch today from one of the North Texas institutions known as Babe's Chicken. In short: calorie laden food with no calorie info provided by the restaurant. Oh geez, so Lose It has some info for them, and I figure it out as best as I can. It was not a "light" lunch, but I'm still well within my cap, including the dinner I already had planned.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
Then it dawned on me. My wife and I were going to a get together tonight where everybody brings random homemade food and the theme is comfort food. I could be totally rude and just not eat anything at all, but then my planned dinner at home would be eaten super late, and that isn't good, either.
So far, the only thing I've lost with the Lose It app is my mind.
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Hey, those kind of days are anomalies, don't worry about it. Just calculate the calories as best you can and enter it. The total weight of all your normal days will far outweigh (no pun intended) the anomalic days.
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#1874
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Don't talk about the Lexa. Mr. @rjones28 and I could have really pimped that baby out for you, all East Coast meets West Coast style. But noooooo, you had to get the Sparrow instead.
But I do love that Sparrow.