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Old 06-28-12, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cubex
time to play again got my position dialed in don't mind the tester stem

sorry about the pictures still learning my new camera



G.S. Astuto VC2 Carbon by cub_x, on Flickr

G.S. Astuto VC2 Carbon by cub_x, on Flickr
Short stem and short seatpost means too large of a frame. Like the parts don't like the setup. Not hot.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
Short stem and short seatpost means too large of a frame. Like the parts don't like the setup. Not hot.
I understand that your preference is for more steapost exposed, but does that really mean it's too large? If you were going to build a custom frame with that geometry isn't this what you might come out with given the various numbers involved? Once you have the headtube set, and you know the buyer wants it slammed, the only way to expose more seatpost would result in changing all of the angles and therefore the geometry, right?
(Top tube sloped, seat-stays shorter, etc.)
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Originally Posted by island rider
I understand that your preference is for more steapost exposed, but does that really mean it's too large? If you were going to build a custom frame with that geometry isn't this what you might come out with given the various numbers involved? Once you have the headtube set, and you know the buyer wants it slammed, the only way to expose more seatpost would result in changing all of the angles and therefore the geometry, right?
(Top tube sloped, seat-stays shorter, etc.)
You want to pick your frames for top tube length. This one does have a sloping top tube. In a sloping top tube geometry you want to see more seat tube showing unless you have very short legs compare to your torso which in that case you expect to see a short post but a long stem if the frame was selected carefully. The way this frame is set up tells me he could have gone with a smaller frame which is lighter and he could enjoy the benefits of a a longer stem a seatpost.
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What are the benefits of a longer seatpost and stem?
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Old 06-28-12, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob13
Hot!!! Down to the Nokon cable housing, measure twice cut once cables, over $100 for a set.
Thanks. I am enjoying riding her. Last night, however, I broke a spoke and had to hobble back home with a wobbly front tire.
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Originally Posted by RJM
What are the benefits of a longer seatpost and stem?
^ I was about to type this. I wish I could remember where I read it, but I thought I read somewhere that stem and seatpost inches are among the heavier inches on a carbon bike. Meaning that a bigger frame with less stem and seatpost would actually be lighter.

As for picking a frame for top tube length, I always thought that was just because it was the only measurement on the bike that was individual to the rider and yet fixed on the frame. The only way to adjust it was through the stem and you are limited in the lengths you can use there. Specifically, you can get longer or shorter stems, seatposts, bars, cranks, different angles on stems, etc. But you could not change that top tube length.
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Short stems can get twitchy.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Short stems can get twitchy.
Makes sense.
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Old 06-28-12, 11:39 AM
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I would think it has to be a pretty short stem coupled with a narrow bar though to introduce some serious twitchy-ness. I have a 7cm stem on my steel bike and it is a bit twitchy, but I also use a handlebar that is not wide, like a 41cm I believe. The only time it gets to me, twichyness that is, is when I am huffing and puffing up a steep incline and I can feel the front start to wander.
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Originally Posted by RJM
What are the benefits of a longer seatpost and stem?
By that I meant a wider seat post range of movement. It offers the luxury and more range to adjust reach and drop. On a smaller frame with more seat post showing the rider has the ability to place his/her body behind the bb where optimally you want to be. On a larger frame for your size you have to slam the seat down and virtually sit on top of the bb.
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Originally Posted by UCIMBZ
By that I meant a wider seat post range of movement. It offers the luxury and more range to adjust reach and drop. On a smaller frame with more seat post showing the rider has the ability to place his/her body behind the bb where optimally you want to be. On a larger frame for your size you have to slam the seat down and virtually sit on top of the bb.
Assuming the seat tube angle is the same, I don't see how the size of the frame will affect where he sits relative to the BB since it'll be the same distance from saddle to BB on any size bike. If the seattube angle changes, then it can affect fore/aft positioning, but that doesn't always change between sizes.

You put the seat at the height your legs dictate, same with fore/aft. You don't adjust saddle height for drop nor reach.
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thats not a big frame btw I'm only 5'6 and I have short legs and arms and get limited to what I can afford and buy my next frame is being custom made for this reason sadly its not a road bike.
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Originally Posted by c_mack9
love the bike...hoods look really high, especially when compared to your sig
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Old 06-29-12, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by c_mack9
I just saw this on November Bicycles' Facebook page. Let us know how you like the wheels when you get some time on them.
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Old 06-29-12, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
love the bike...hoods look really high, especially when compared to your sig
Hot bike, but yeah, the hoods sort of negates the nice saddle/bar drop.
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Damn those wheels make that bike look so NICE!!
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Originally Posted by cubex
thats not a big frame btw I'm only 5'6 and I have short legs and arms and get limited to what I can afford and buy my next frame is being custom made for this reason sadly its not a road bike.
I didn't say it is a big frame. I said it is big for you. Now that you explained your anatomical situation, it further reiterates my speculation. It is big for you.
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Old 06-29-12, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
love the bike...hoods look really high, especially when compared to your sig
Looks like the same pic to me...
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Wanted to add some color rather just plain black and white, but i am not sure how i feel about it... Im sure you guys will let me know though

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Originally Posted by Mm31
Wanted to add some color rather just plain black and white, but i am not sure how i feel about it... Im sure you guys will let me know though

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I like the blue tyres. A better pic with horizontal cranks will get HOT
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^ very nice bike.
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Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder
Looks like the same pic to me...
your eyes are crooked

edit: he changed his sig, it was a stock photo of the bike from a the web site. The hoods in the stock photo are down a bit more...looks better that way
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
your eyes are crooked

edit: he changed his sig, it was a stock photo of the bike from a the web site. The hoods in the stock photo are down a bit more...looks better that way
yeah i had them the way i liked them, then i had the handlebars wrapped with black tape and they were left a little high. i rotated them back down now. i really hadnt noticed so i'm glad yall pointed that out.
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