105 or ultegra? please help!!!!
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Florida can be very flat in certain areas but most of the cyclist travel once in a while to Clermont (20 mins depends of your location) and we have quite a few hills back to back. We do a lot of 100 miles and triathlons here. I'm riding a compact because of the hills here and it helps me so far. I asked Performance Bike last week the same question because I'm getting the 6800 and they say to stick with a compact. Good luck.
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Love this logic...you are ready-made for this sport/hobbie.
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Well as I said I do live in Florida and there aren't many hills, and as for the triple I don't think I would ever use it to its full potential. The bianchi is lighter and has little better parts. So bianchi is the winner!
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The purpose of a triple is to get more low gears to handle difficult climbs without sacrificing gears in the high range. Unless you live near Clermont, the biggest climb you're likely to encounter is a 60' bridge, so you really don't need the extra low gear a triple offers. But it won't hurt you either (beyond the extra weight it adds).
For us Florida riders, gearing is almost a "don't care". I have a road double (39/53) on my road bike, a single chainring (42) with 10 speed cassette on my CX bike, and I've seen one guy do our Sunday 20 MPH group ride on a fixed gear vintage track bike
For us Florida riders, gearing is almost a "don't care". I have a road double (39/53) on my road bike, a single chainring (42) with 10 speed cassette on my CX bike, and I've seen one guy do our Sunday 20 MPH group ride on a fixed gear vintage track bike
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[QUOTE=RPK79;16800042]I did a google image search for Florida hills:
Lol, good one, In that's going to Cocoa Beach.....
Lol, good one, In that's going to Cocoa Beach.....
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Get the Scott, save the $400, for any/all of: a new seat, tires, pedals, shoes, shorts, jersies, sunglasses, helmet, gloves, etc. (That $400 will disappear rapidly.)
The difference between the components on the two bikes is relatively minimal. If you rode and liked both and still couldn't decide, pocket the money to pay for all that other stuff and then go ride your sweet new bike!
Regarding a double vs. triple: You will do fine with the double up front as you don't have any hills to speak of to really warrant a triple.
The difference between the components on the two bikes is relatively minimal. If you rode and liked both and still couldn't decide, pocket the money to pay for all that other stuff and then go ride your sweet new bike!
Regarding a double vs. triple: You will do fine with the double up front as you don't have any hills to speak of to really warrant a triple.
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Get the Scott, save the $400, for any/all of: a new seat, tires, pedals, shoes, shorts, jersies, sunglasses, helmet, gloves, etc. (That $400 will disappear rapidly.)
The difference between the components on the two bikes is relatively minimal. If you rode and liked both and still couldn't decide, pocket the money to pay for all that other stuff and then go ride your sweet new bike!
Regarding a double vs. triple: You will do fine with the double up front as you don't have any hills to speak of to really warrant a triple.
The difference between the components on the two bikes is relatively minimal. If you rode and liked both and still couldn't decide, pocket the money to pay for all that other stuff and then go ride your sweet new bike!
Regarding a double vs. triple: You will do fine with the double up front as you don't have any hills to speak of to really warrant a triple.
I tried to share the same logic, it seems the OP has made up his mind to go with the Bianchi because of the Ultegra parts. As we all found out, he will find out what all those accessories do to the wallet.
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I wouldn't get a triple in Florida (and I happen to be a triple fan). That is an important consideration.
I'm hoping that if the compact is on the more expensive bike, you can afford it without hardship because that's an important decision factor and worth the extra money for several reasons (1, the bike will work better, and 2 the components are more expensive and therfore are fairly valued). I'm also hoping that if it's on the cheaper bike, that you don't think you're missing anything functionally because they'll both work really well for you.
Functionally, as a new rider, you'd never notice a functional difference between any of the components you're talking about. But that doesn't mean the price difference isn't real in the marketplace or that one is a better "value" than the other. They're probably equal "value" in terms of the market price of the parts.
But as someone said early in the thread, the wheels are also an important value adder/reducer. It's not only Ultegra/105 vs 105/Tiagra. That alone, on paper, might be worth $400, maybe not (I'm not all that well versed in the prices of the components). However, if the Ultegra/105 bike has better wheels (fairly likely) that could be worth an additional couple hundred in value.
But look at the crank - that's the most important difference.
Hope this helps.
I'm hoping that if the compact is on the more expensive bike, you can afford it without hardship because that's an important decision factor and worth the extra money for several reasons (1, the bike will work better, and 2 the components are more expensive and therfore are fairly valued). I'm also hoping that if it's on the cheaper bike, that you don't think you're missing anything functionally because they'll both work really well for you.
Functionally, as a new rider, you'd never notice a functional difference between any of the components you're talking about. But that doesn't mean the price difference isn't real in the marketplace or that one is a better "value" than the other. They're probably equal "value" in terms of the market price of the parts.
But as someone said early in the thread, the wheels are also an important value adder/reducer. It's not only Ultegra/105 vs 105/Tiagra. That alone, on paper, might be worth $400, maybe not (I'm not all that well versed in the prices of the components). However, if the Ultegra/105 bike has better wheels (fairly likely) that could be worth an additional couple hundred in value.
But look at the crank - that's the most important difference.
Hope this helps.
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