Shawnp204

I'm still new to all this and I'm trying to decide what bike to buy. I don't race, but I do like to group ride. I'm trying to figure out if I should get 105 or ultegra components. I'm looking at a 2013 bianchi IMPULSO ultegra and the 2013 Scott speedster 20 with 105s the bianchi is $400 more then the Scott. Is it worth the $400 extra for the riding I do?

10 Wheels

105 is good .....

RPK79

I personally went with 105 over Ultegra since I didn't feel the price difference was worth it.

dtrain

What are the other differences (like wheels) - and which bike feels/fits better? If 6800, the Bianchi would easily be worth $400 more (IMO). But I'm assuming this is a 5700 vs. 6700 comparison?

achoo

Only reasons to get Ultegra over 105 is 11 speed and/or Di2 electronic shifting.

rpenmanparker 

Probably not in a first bike. The prevailing wisdom is this: if you get the cycling bug big time, you will likely want to upgrade whatever you start with fairly soon, so rhe 105 represents good economy. You aren't throwing away money on a bike you will just replace anyway. If you don't get the bug, well 105 will do fine for you forever. You wouldn't care about the Ultegra anyway. See how that works?

Shawnp204

Bianchi
Specifications
Geometry
MODEL Road C2C" IMPULSO Alu Ultegra 10sp Compact"
COLOR Celeste
SIZES 44-46-50-53-55-57-59-61-63
FRAME IMPULSO ALU - hydroforming triple butted
FORK Fork Alu Carbon Kevlar Insert
HEADSET Fsa
SHIFTERS Shimano ULTEGRA 10s
REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano ULTEGRA 10s
FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano 105
CRANKSET Fsa Gossamer MegaExo Compact 50-34T
BB BSA
CHAIN Fsa Team Issue CN-910 10sp
SPROCKET Shimano Tiagra 10s 11-28T
BRAKES Reparto Corse
WHEELS Maddux RX 5.1 LITE
TIRES Hutchinson Equinox 2
STEM Reparto Corse Alu
HANDLEBAR Reparto Corse Compact Alu
GRIPS La spirale Ribbon
SEATPOST Reparto Corse Alu
SADDLE Selle San Marco new Ponza Power
PEDALS



Scott
TECHNOLOGY SPECS GEOMETRY SIZE CHART
Frame
Speedster Aero / D.Butted 6061 Alloy / Road geometry / Integrated Head Tube
Fork
Speedster Carbon/Alloy
1 1/8" Alloy steerer
Headset
Integrated Cartridge
Rear Derailleur
Shimano 105 Black RD-5701-GS 20 Speed
Front Derailleur
Shimano Tiagra FD-4600
Shifters
Shimano 105 ST-5703 Black
Dual control 20 Speed
Brake Levers
0
Brakes
Shimano BR-R561 Black
Super SLR Dual pivot
Crankset
Shimano FC - R563 Black Hyperdrive 50 x 39 x 30
BB-Set
Shimano 105 BB - 5700
Handlebar
Syncros RR2.0
Anatomic 31.8 mm
H'stem
Syncros FL 2.0
1-1/8" / four Bolt 31.8 mm
Pedals
0
Seatpost
Syncros R1.4 Carbon/AL 31.6
Seat
Syncros RR3.0
Hub (Front)
Formula Team 20 H
Hub (Rear)
Formula Team 24 H
Chain
KMC X10
Cassette
Shimano Tiagra CS-4600 12-30 T
Spokes
CN - Standard
Black 2 mm
Rims
Syncros Race 27 Aero Profile
20 Front / 24 Rear
Tires
Schwalbe Lugano
700 x 25 C
Weights in KG
9.40 kg
Weights in LBS
20.68 lbs

aubiecat

The only thing that is Ultegra on the Bianchi is the rear derailleur and the shifters.
I'd go with the Scott Speedster with the 105s. It's a good looking bike too.

dtrain

^ Yeah, I'd lean that way too after seeing the specs. Unless the Bianchi really speaks to you, go with the Scott. That $400 can buy a lot of the "extra's" or possible future upgrades (e.g. wheels).

Shawnp204

So specs on the Scott is better then the bianchi?

seymour1910

+3

not even a full Ultegra group. If you like the Scott and they have your size, get it. Use the $400 for a helmet, shoes/pedals, and clothes if you don't have that already.

dtrain

No, the Bianchi is slightly 'better'. But not quite $400 better. Have you ridden both? That's far more important.

Nagrom_

Yeah, and the only thing 105 on the Scott is the rear derailleur and the shifters...

Worth the 400 dollars.

RPK79

One is a triple and one is a compact.

Shawnp204

So your saying the bianchi is worth the extra 400?

Shawnp204

What's better triple or compact?

RPK79

They both have their places. I, personally, prefer a compact since it lends itself better to my riding style and terrain.

seymour1910

well, one person said that. IMO after riding both I don't think 6700 (Ultegra) is better than 5700 (105) other than weight. If both are tuned correctly they shift the same. If it were 6800 I would say jump on it.

At this point I would say ride both and see what you like about each. The group will not matter if you hate how the bike feels.

RPK79

Are you taking into account that one is 105/ultegra mix and the other is tiagra/105 mix?

WestPablo

I just hate Celeste!

Get the Scott!

Shawnp204

I live in Florida is compact good ?

seymour1910

You have a strong point there. The bikes I referenced did have FULL groups, no FSA, tektro or other cheap stuff.

seymour1910

lol....Florida is so flat you could get a standard crank and be just fine.

Yes, a compact double is good for you.

Shawnp204

Well then the ultegra/105 is better

Shawnp204

I have rode both they both are really nice. I would like to eventually upgrade as I get into it more. So the bianchi already would save me money