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Old 09-18-14, 07:47 PM
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Why is this in Road, anyway? Because the OP wanted to shake his first at someone?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
The law allows for some exceptions. There are exceptions for safety, turns, access, etc. "etc" is actually in the law, pretty much covers everything, right?
I'ver never looked up the exact law but from this video makes it seem like you must always be in the bike lane.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Holy cow, that is one of the most perfect pieces of sensationalist yellow journalism I have ever had the chance to read. I mean, the cold facts probably point to the cyclist being at fault, but wow, the phrasing, the diction, everything they can possibly stack against the cyclist. They spin better than a track champion.
And they used the wrong spelling of 'brake' in the last paragraph.
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Originally Posted by GiChoke
I'ver never looked up the exact law but from this video makes it seem like you must always be in the bike lane.
4-12(p). Top of page 2:

https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/download...es_english.pdf
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Why is this in Road, anyway? Because the OP wanted to shake his first at someone?
Because we all ride time trial bikes, of course.
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Is this the same Jason Marshall who bikes?

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Originally Posted by datlas
I am thinking that Aerobars plus NYC is not a good mix. But hindsight is 20/20. I feel bad for all involved.
Same here. Being out on the aero bars is the biggest mistake that the cyclist allegedly made. Riding the car lane should be safer for all. Being there should have made the cyclist easier for the ped to spot.

If you're gonna roll aero bars in Central Park at least get on the base bars when approaching intersections and crosswalks, so that you can brake.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Holy cow, that is one of the most perfect pieces of sensationalist yellow journalism I have ever had the chance to read. I mean, the cold facts probably point to the cyclist being at fault, but wow, the phrasing, the diction, everything they can possibly stack against the cyclist. They spin better than a track champion.
You clearly don't regularly read the New York Post.
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thread title is a bit presumptuous, yes?
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
Why? Cars routinely hit pedestrians without facing jail time.
But the drivers to occasionally.
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Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus
You clearly don't regularly read the New York Post.
Do you think that's odd for a Texan?
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Originally Posted by GiChoke
I'ver never looked up the exact law but from this video makes it seem like you must always be in the bike lane.

...and the NYC speed limit is 25mph...lmao
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Looks like a TT bike.

Most definitely a triathlete going for a Strava segment or on a quest to maximize his average speed.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Safety is a BIG word.
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Originally Posted by bt
thread title is a bit presumptuous, yes?
Probably.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
Why? Cars routinely hit pedestrians without facing jail time.
That was my first thought also. Considering the hyperbole inherent in any NYPost article, it feels to me like this guy showed about the same disregard for pedestrians as your garden variety careless driver. But I wouldn't be surprised if they threw the book at this guy.
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
Looks like a TT bike.

Most definitely a triathlete going for a Strava segment or on a quest to maximize his average speed.
They shouldn't have triathlon.
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Investigator #1 : He says it cost $4000.
Investigator #2 : You don't say. My wife would kill me.
Beat Cop: That bastard.



So you click this doohickey up here and the thingamabob in the back moves.

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I hope the Jamis is okay.
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Is it just me or does that look like a steel frame?

Maybe alu. Stays look a little thick for steel.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Is it just me or does that look like a steel frame?

Maybe alu. Stays look a little thick for steel.
It's a 1999 or 2000 Jamis Ellipse, def not $4,000.
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Originally Posted by GiChoke
It's a 1999 or 2000 Jamis Ellipse, def not $4,000.


The article isn't fact based - they just figured that $4k ought to properly convey an entitled attitude.
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GiChoke, you wouldn't happen to train BJJ with Marcelo, would you?
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Two months ago, a female cycling advocate in NYC was hit by a car and put in the hospital. Witnesses identified the car, followed it to its destination, photographed the driver, and provided info to the police. The police have yet to follow up, so the advocate is suing them and the driver. This was all in the written news last week.

Five months ago, a cab driver hit a young boy walking across the road, dragged him to his death. NYC's initial response was to pull his hack license. National media attention got more legal attention focused.

Not excusing the cyclist, only saying that an expectation of jail time is presumptive. A presumption of a massive civil suit is far more likely.
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