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09-25-14, 12:54 PM
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Can you cite the relevant code that makes it even a misdemeanor to run over a pedestrian, leave the scene and report the incident at the police station?
The only section I can find is VTL 22.600 part 2, which is the one I quoted above. (VTL Article 22 - Vehicle Traffic Law - Accidents | Reports) You are somehow inferring the duty to stay at the scene of the accident. I don't see it in the code and it's unreasonable to expect its existence. Hit and run laws were written before the age of cell phones, there's no expectation that there is a police officer in the vicinity of every accident or even that a police officer might show up any time soon. If you mandate stopping and waiting for the police, the driver might end up waiting for a very long time.
I've just checked California Vehicle Code, and, likewise, there is no requirement to stay at the site of the accident, only a requirement to share personal information with survivors or police officers already on site (if any), to provide assistance to injuried parties (if any), e.g. by arranging transportation to the hospital, and to report the incident "without delay" at the nearest police station.
The only section I can find is VTL 22.600 part 2, which is the one I quoted above. (VTL Article 22 - Vehicle Traffic Law - Accidents | Reports) You are somehow inferring the duty to stay at the scene of the accident. I don't see it in the code and it's unreasonable to expect its existence. Hit and run laws were written before the age of cell phones, there's no expectation that there is a police officer in the vicinity of every accident or even that a police officer might show up any time soon. If you mandate stopping and waiting for the police, the driver might end up waiting for a very long time.
I've just checked California Vehicle Code, and, likewise, there is no requirement to stay at the site of the accident, only a requirement to share personal information with survivors or police officers already on site (if any), to provide assistance to injuried parties (if any), e.g. by arranging transportation to the hospital, and to report the incident "without delay" at the nearest police station.
Here is an article I found for Ny.The punishment for Leaving the Scene of an Accident in New York - Avvo.com
Ca. California Misdemeanor "Hit & Run" Laws | Vehicle Code 20002 vc
pretty clearly indicated the property damage is a misdemeanor , bodily injury is a Felony.
09-25-14, 12:59 PM
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It says, I quote: "Any person operating a motor vehicle who, knowing or having cause to know that personal injury has been caused ... shall, before leaving the place where the said personal injury occurred, stop, exhibit his or her license and insurance ... to the injured party, if practical, and also to a police officer, or in the event that no police officer is in the vicinity of the place of said injury, then, he or she shall report said incident as soon as physically able to the nearest police station".
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NY state law makes it a crime to leave the scene of the accident after running over, say, a cat (without stopping and trying to locate either the owner of the cat or a police officer), but makes no such provision if you run over a human and kill him.
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NY state law makes it a crime to leave the scene of the accident after running over, say, a cat (without stopping and trying to locate either the owner of the cat or a police officer), but makes no such provision if you run over a human and kill him.
This isn't true. Somebody who is killed is "mortally injured" and the law you quoted covers that case too.
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09-25-14, 01:30 PM
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My only contribution to this thread is to post in the hopeful expectation that we can all stop using hashtags on this forum. The joy of using an internet forum vs. twitter or whatever is that we can write lengthy posts if we want, with proper grammar and punctuation, because we don't have character limits and most of us are viewing these posts on real computers versus cell phone screens. The whole hashtag/acronym thing is ironic and funny sometimes and useful in the context of twitter, but if you're using it to make a point in an argument on a forum, it's just annoying.
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What a tragedy for all involved.
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...I guess this 'splains why you, me, and @surgeonstone are here. 
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09-25-14, 03:03 PM
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I skipped the first 19 pages. Is this thread about a train running over a cat?
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This thread has clearly run its course -- or as Vintage_Cyclist says "dropped its chain" lol -- therefore let's put 'er to sleep. Thread closed.
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